Chris Harmse

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Off the Rails from the U.S. Faster Payments Council - FPC · 12 June 2025 Chris Harmse of BVNK on stablecoins, cross border payments, and skydiving · 12 Jun 2025 podcast

But yeah, I think we do need to build more, you know, kind of robust dispute resolution into the ecosystem.

I'm a buyer for sure.

I think if we think, like if we zoom back out and go, these domestic payment schemes like RTP, FedNow, and others around the world, PayFast in Singapore and Pix in Brazil, they've all innovated at different paces.

So no one is kind of on the same level.

And we have a couple that are working at scale today.

A blockchain allows you to connect those all together.

and create a full end-to-end instant payment from fiat.

We spoke about that fiat stablecoin, fiat pair.

I think that's possible in domestic systems as well.

So if you've got two systems that can be connected again by this instant always on payment trail and almost rebalancing can happen between two RTP net, like an RTP and a FedNow or two domestic RTP networks.

And the way I like to think about stablecoin technology more broadly is like,

It's the one true rail that's able to serve as infrastructure, i.e.

a payment rail, but also can serve as a payment method.

And it can also move from doing a $1 payment to moving a billion dollars on the same rail, where already today payment schemes are ACH is more consumer, FedWi is more B2B or institutional in the US.

I think it has all of these properties and therefore I think it can play a good role to actually bridging an institutional instant payment role to a consumer instant payment role and vice versa.

Well, look, I'm selling the penny because I think the art was to really buy the penny and sell it for the $4 of raw material, but that you can't do in the US.

Four cents, effectively.

Four cents, yeah.

Four dollars would be amazing.

Yeah, four dollars would be the biggest arbitrage floating around in plain sight.

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