Chris Kamara

He's a very different start.

But equally, it's an interesting point, isn't it?

He's letting you down.

He's letting the Italian name down.

One of the things that he's come out very early on and said is, and it's a player that you know very well, Kante, of course, that actually he wants to try and change the way he plays a little bit, rather than being as defensive, but he wants him a bit more box-to-box.

He wants him to attack more as well.

Do you think for you, is he one of the best midfielders in the world, Kante?

Yeah, he's worth two men.

The other thing that we've been hearing recently is Roman Abramovich is looking to sell Chelsea.

You were his first manager, of course, so you sort of experienced life pre-Abramovich and then post-Abramovich.

What was he like to work for when he first arrived?

Yes, Ericsson.

How different were the two clubs before and after him?

Because what we sort of have heard about Chelsea at the time before he took over was it was struggling financially and it was difficult for the managers and difficult for the sort of the environment that you were training in.

So that's why he bought it, because you were Champions League.

One of those players that you did get your hands on, of course, after you arrived, was Frank Lampard, who we've now seen managing at Derby.

It's the first result I go, come under me, come under me.

So you still have a great deal of pride in what Frank managed to do for you.

And also, did you always imagine and envisage him becoming a manager, Claudio?

Well, I think they've won four on the bounce now as well, so, you know, he's... And he's been very honest.