Chris Koerner

And then you have the maintainer, which would be an operator.

That's a guy that just wakes up every day and loves tweaking little things and making small improvements, process oriented, someone that loves growing something and just fixing little problems all day, right?

And then you have a finisher, which is like a deal guy, right?

That's the guy that's a super connector.

He likes to, oh, you need to talk to Barry.

And then he calls him, he connects them.

And like, he just gets a lot of energy from connecting deals, coming up with creative deals for an exit, for a sale, putting people together, hiring the right people, seeing something to its completion.

But I'm definitely in the first camp.

Is it possible to be all three?

Yeah, when you're all three, you're Mark Zuckerberg.

I mean, truly, like you start something from scratch and you see it to a trillion dollars.

There's been like, I think there have been three people on the planet that have brought something from zero to a trillion.

Jensen Huang, NVIDIA, Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg.

I think like even Bill Gates, even Steve Jobs, I might be wrong.

Yeah, but even Steve Jobs got out long before they hit a trillion market cap.

But a billion, a lot of people get a billion.

That's not nothing.

Also very impressive.

But when you get all three, that's what you get.

One of the things that I find really interesting about your story is you've started, what is it, 75, 80 businesses?