Chris Whipple

Well, I suppose you could argue that that's what she meant.

That's not the way I took it.

It seemed to me, it certainly sounded to me as though they really feel that they could force Maduro out.

Well, she says a couple of things, and they're not always consistent.

But one of the things she said was that we can strike—I mean, I'm paraphrasing now, but the U.S.

is entitled to strike even within territorial waters because they're evading detection, and therefore, presumably, they're guilty of drug smuggling.

So she said that.

as though Trump could simply go ahead and order these strikes with impunity.

But I really did have a very pointed exchange with her about the whole Venezuela policy or the blowing up of boats, these lethal strikes.

And I don't think she had a very convincing answer.

I mean, we had an exchange about it, and she said, well, we're fighting a war.

It's a war against these drug smugglers, to which I replied, well, yeah, but it's a war only in the president's opinion.

He doesn't have congressional approval.

And she said, well, we don't need it.

She said, we only need it if we're going to do land strikes.

But we did have some really pointed exchanges.

And again, it was just remarkable to me that she was willing to really answer or at least attempt to answer any question I threw at her.

And I give her credit for that.

Yeah, it's got nothing to do with drinking.

What she really means by that is this notion, this grandiose notion that he can do anything.