Chris Winger
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7,757 appearances
58 recordings
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first heard Apr 2022
last heard Aug 2024
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They don't tend, remember, no shame, no blame, but they don't tend to consider autistic needs.
Jesse's very well-versed in sensory needs and the sensory system.
And I'm well-versed in the nervous system as well as the sensory system, both of us on the nervous system, sensory.
And the behaviors and the approaches and the goals tend to dismiss that.
And so that's where it can become challenging because
With an ABA type approach, they're looking at observable behaviors.
I'm going to have Jesse talk a little bit more about this, but it's looking at observable behaviors.
Why?
Because those are measurable.
The things that are not measurable are things that you don't observe, such as...
Jesse,
Yeah, absolutely.
That's the other thing, too, is that typically, through the program,
through what ABA practitioners are learning, they're not learning about autistic sensory needs, autistic social and emotional needs, and those types of things.
So what ends up happening is that goals can tend to be created.
Again, I don't like to say an always or never thing, but goals and approaches can sometimes tend to dismiss all of those to shape or change into
extinguishing um those differences and so what
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I think that I reflect back on the other concept too.
When a parent gets that initial diagnosis from the diagnostician, the healthcare provider, the pediatrician of autism, a lot of times,
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