Christian Howes

And I proposed.

I said, I'm going to talk about, you know, like drugs and I'm going to talk about, you know, try to impart some of these messages to encourage kids.

And some of the feedback I got from this particular application was like, no, just stick with the music.

We don't want you to talk about this other thing.

but um i don't know maybe that made you feel shameful who knows you know there could have been a lot of different factors i mean the fact is right now i'm i'm wanting to lean more back into this because i sense that it is it's important for me to develop it's important for me to lean into it as opposed to away from it and recently i've reconnected with um re-entry communities

And that's been really inspiring because I feel like when I'm in a room, in that room with formerly incarcerated people, I feel like I belong in that room.

I feel like there's a way that I can be authentic that I don't always feel in any other spaces.

Even just like connecting with you, you know, before the show, there's just a, there's a sort of understanding and a feeling of being seen for who I am and a feeling of not needing to be ashamed actually.

Yeah.

And so I, so I think that.

Why is that?

I don't know why.

do you know what, I mean, well, when we're in prison, I think you do learn to see the prisoners as being human.

Yeah.

And when I first got locked up and you went for drugs, right?

Yeah.

It was a drug charge.

Yeah.

It was a trafficking LSD.

And, uh,