Christian Hubicki

Yes, yeah.

And nothing was a better advice that I guess gave myself from listening to like the podcast and such is that I am probably a terrible lie detector just on its face, just from like just, you know, body tells don't generally on strangers don't care, you know.

All these things you should actively ignore and instead go for an evidence and or science-based approach to interrogating whether or not something is true or not on the island.

So that was really interesting.

I remember that experience a lot the first time I played Survivor.

It was like, hey, how do I know if...

I'm the person gonna be voted out tonight from talking to someone because people will just say to your face, it's not you when it's you.

And that's just what we what we agree.

You've got to play the odds.

So anyway, I'm happy to go freeform on this however you want, but that was one of the most interesting things.

And to be living it in such a high stakes thing.

I don't play poker.

Cameron, are you a poker person?

Or are you just a... Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's great.

Oh, I got to learn things because I don't know poker.

She's damn good.

Oh, that's good.

That's good.