Christian Rudder

And I know we're not talking exactly about love here, but you can't know everything about that. And like the data and therefore like the algorithms that are sort of grinding it all up. Like, they just ultimately don't know you as well as you know yourself.

And I know we're not talking exactly about love here, but you can't know everything about that. And like the data and therefore like the algorithms that are sort of grinding it all up. Like, they just ultimately don't know you as well as you know yourself.

Just looking back on where the world is now and where it was in 2015 when I left OkCupid, like, we actually had a kind of, like, machine learning program to try to improve our algorithm and try to find people even more perfect matches that we actually ended up shutting down because we felt like in our tests, like...

Just looking back on where the world is now and where it was in 2015 when I left OkCupid, like, we actually had a kind of, like, machine learning program to try to improve our algorithm and try to find people even more perfect matches that we actually ended up shutting down because we felt like in our tests, like...

no matter how much work we put into improving the algorithm, like the ultimate arbiter was always the person who was going on the date or sending the message or whatever. And we stopped trying to guess what was going to make people into pebbles or to use your metaphor, like,

no matter how much work we put into improving the algorithm, like the ultimate arbiter was always the person who was going on the date or sending the message or whatever. And we stopped trying to guess what was going to make people into pebbles or to use your metaphor, like,

Because people change so much and there's so many weird things about people like how they laugh or the way they carry themselves or like a look in their eye that you just can't get to through a computer, at least yet. And so, yeah, we just kind of, we always tried to be aware of what we couldn't know, I guess, if that makes sense.

Because people change so much and there's so many weird things about people like how they laugh or the way they carry themselves or like a look in their eye that you just can't get to through a computer, at least yet. And so, yeah, we just kind of, we always tried to be aware of what we couldn't know, I guess, if that makes sense.

And I know I'm kind of ranging from your initial question, but like I do think it's interesting what people go and do in these sort of bite-sized units of like just clicking on someone and yeah, guys click on 20-year-olds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're hotter, I guess. And women don't do that.

And I know I'm kind of ranging from your initial question, but like I do think it's interesting what people go and do in these sort of bite-sized units of like just clicking on someone and yeah, guys click on 20-year-olds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're hotter, I guess. And women don't do that.

I mean, if I were to start a new dating app like today, you would have to use some kind of AI. But again, I don't think I would try to make the perfect match, have ChatGPT figure out exactly the right person for me in the world. Because I just think that's like a losing game. Yeah. I mean, we've all been set up by friends that think, oh my God, Jenny's perfect for you. You got to meet her.

I mean, if I were to start a new dating app like today, you would have to use some kind of AI. But again, I don't think I would try to make the perfect match, have ChatGPT figure out exactly the right person for me in the world. Because I just think that's like a losing game. Yeah. I mean, we've all been set up by friends that think, oh my God, Jenny's perfect for you. You got to meet her.

And you sit down and you're just like, ugh, or whatever. Or maybe she hates you. Who knows? I think the AI component would be better served where the app can have a conversation with you to get to know you better so that it can let you control more of your own experience rather than making the algorithm stronger. I guess it makes your voice in the algorithm stronger. Does that make sense?

And you sit down and you're just like, ugh, or whatever. Or maybe she hates you. Who knows? I think the AI component would be better served where the app can have a conversation with you to get to know you better so that it can let you control more of your own experience rather than making the algorithm stronger. I guess it makes your voice in the algorithm stronger. Does that make sense?

That's what I'd like to see happen. Because I think... Kind of getting back to what we were saying a second ago, with the Tinders and Bumbles of the world, the algorithm is all-powerful. It's just like, to use your potato chip example, if you think of Tinders like an infinite can of Pringles, you're just taking one off the top and you sit and just eat it.

That's what I'd like to see happen. Because I think... Kind of getting back to what we were saying a second ago, with the Tinders and Bumbles of the world, the algorithm is all-powerful. It's just like, to use your potato chip example, if you think of Tinders like an infinite can of Pringles, you're just taking one off the top and you sit and just eat it.

Right, exactly. And it just does all the work. It's the silo, right? But I think if you can make the algorithm... make you, your voice and your thoughts and what you really want more subtle and more powerful within the mix of how it's showing you people. I think that would be really cool. Almost like a life coach. Like if people could put up with that, I think it'd be pretty cool.

Right, exactly. And it just does all the work. It's the silo, right? But I think if you can make the algorithm... make you, your voice and your thoughts and what you really want more subtle and more powerful within the mix of how it's showing you people. I think that would be really cool. Almost like a life coach. Like if people could put up with that, I think it'd be pretty cool.

Tech and dating. I mean, I do doubt, probably like most people that have used these apps, whether it's healthy to have that infinite can or just know that if I don't like this person or choose not to talk to this person in front of me, well, there's always somebody else. And you can just go through.

Tech and dating. I mean, I do doubt, probably like most people that have used these apps, whether it's healthy to have that infinite can or just know that if I don't like this person or choose not to talk to this person in front of me, well, there's always somebody else. And you can just go through.