Christiana
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1,364 appearances
23 recordings
1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
Christiana’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
It's already happening. Oh, well, there you go. There's an anti-timeout movement right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know. I do believe... Listen, I want to be clear so everyone doesn't think like I'm complete pessimist. No, no.
I'm optimistic about myself. I keep telling you guys. But everyone... I just... I... Because, you know, there's so many people in my life I love because of their kindness, right? So it'd be ridiculous for me to say. It's just I struggle with the idea of humanity as kind because of the way where we are right now. But that can change. I'm open to my mind being changed.
Yeah.
I actually love veganism like as a way of life. It's just like, I think it's, I think it's crazy. I like Chanel.
Yeah, but I guess my thing is on the billionaire front, I think the fact that these billionaires exist seems like a profound failure. Yeah. I agree. No, but I agree. No, no, no. I agree with that. I'm just like, a billion of a thing is a lot. It's just like one billion. Like, how did we get here? That's my question.
In any system, because we know that under socialism, there are people that hoard and steal and also have a billion. So I'm like, shouldn't we be in a world where we're like, do we want billionaires? Like, forget them paying more taxes. I'm even like to the left of you. I'm like, I just don't think they should exist.
She just means that the financial thing. I love all the founders.
No, but I just honestly believe that like that's an expression. Like you and I say intensive farming is a failure of your imagination. I believe like the fact that we're like.
Yeah, I just think to be a billionaire, you have to hoard. And I don't believe in wealth hoarding. I think it's because like to you speaking about Occupy World Shoot, the thing that bothered people is that like the gap between the have and the have nots has widened so much. And it's been at the benefit of this billionaire class.
So I can't I can't just imagine any world where we're like we're OK with having that if somebody makes five or seven thousand dollars more a year. Like so I'm basically telling you next time you go to Davos. You should be like, forget paying more taxes. You guys need to give all your money away. Men's is never going back.
Rutger, I'm really curious. For people at home who have some sort of moral ambition but don't know how to channel it and they don't necessarily want to go vegan, what can you do in your little patch of the world to make it better?
Gandhi.
And for many different reasons.
He's also a guy that gives away tons of money all the time without even thinking about it. He gives everyone money.
Okay.
Yeah.
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