Christopher Hale

I think that's what we're looking for.

We're looking for a baseline comfort that everyone can achieve in this country by working hard for 40 hours a week.

There's nothing wrong with having rest.

I think that what – and so it reminds me of an author that maybe your listeners are familiar with.

Oliver Berkman wrote, I believe it was called – I can't remember the word.

It was 4,000 Weeks, basically a survival guide for mortality.

And for the Catholic Church, for Christians, for people of faith in general, mortality is not something to be overcome in and of itself.

It's about having a dignified life.

He's very skeptical of Rian Johnson.

Of course, he didn't name check Rian Johnson.

But for Christianity, death is a part, a noble part of the equation.

So I think it's really hard for the Pope and for the church to understand this idea that that is something to be overcome.

Just to get a little theological for a second, really the way that Christianity overcomes death is,

is by dying.

St.

Paul says that Jesus, by dying, destroyed our death.

So death is not something we should be afraid of.

It's something that is part of the journey.

It creates a second life for us, a life everlasting.

So more practical levels, I think we want to do anything that can dignify the human life to make it better live, to make it more comfortable for people.