Chuck Bryant

Well, he said with his own mouth, I am the Messiah.

And there are Davidians that are still alive that believe he was the Messiah.

Another thing I didn't know is that that Mount Carmel had been active since 1935.

So it had been around a long, long time.

It's about 13 miles northeast of Waco, Texas.

And so they had been around for a long, long time.

And in 55 is when that official split came.

And then 59 was when.

And I think that's why they were like, hey, don't predict the second comings, because when they don't happen, you end up looking kind of dumb.

Exactly.

And that happened in 1955.

The second coming did not happen.

And so they ended up there with that last group, like you said, about 100 people.

Koresh had been around since he was in his early 20s.

He got off to a kind of a rocky start there because he had had an affair with Lois Roden, who I guess was Benjamin Roden's wife.

Yes.

If the math checks out, she was in her 60s and he was in his 20s.

And he got into a squabble with her son about who was going to become leader and ended up shooting him.

And like he was arrested and everything.

And it was a hung jury.