Chuck Klosterman

So like, I think you are looking at the world and seeing all the ways the world could f*** this up.

Like there's like this thing that there's all these almost like these forces, these dark forces doing it.

And to me, it's sort of like, well, it has more to do with the individual feeling to this thing.

And granted, all those things you're talking about shape that.

But I think it has to do almost with the perception of those things.

Like I'm just surprised that we're kind of agreeing so often where I think in a lot of ways, like our experience with this is very different or sort of like,

And I guess I suppose somebody could say like, well, that's proof of football's value.

That you can have these two diametrically opposed ways of looking at it and still come to the same conclusion, which is that somehow this thing with all these problems must be protected.

Like we must protect this thing.

I probably would be more likable than I am now, to be totally honest.

I mean, I don't think there's a situation where people are like, I don't want to hang out with this guy if he's high.

There's many situations where people don't want to hang out with me in every other scenario, but not in that one.

Yes, that is what that's exactly what has happened, Bill.

That's exactly what it is.

You know, I nailed it.

I've been thinking about this stuff for 40 years now in my life.

I think I've been thinking about it very consciously for about 20 years.

And I just I finally did it.

I mean, there's been a bunch of books where I've kind of talked about sports here and there.

But this is the first time I was like, look, this is what it's about.