Chuck Todd

To get across, which is why I'm happy to see flag football, which creates more gender opportunities, gender equity there.

I mean, I just think the whole concept of football is so team oriented more so that it is it is a great, great teaching tool.

We have no left side of the offensive line, right?

That poor guy.

Hey, before we leave football, since you coached it and you watch it in a way that's probably not just from a fan perspective, it really does seem like in the last 48 months –

both in college and the pros, which is defense is not just caught up to offense.

But I think we're now in a mode.

I mean, it was you look at the college football playoff and look, Miami and Indiana won because of their defense.

That's why they got to that finals.

You know, it was it was and you could say, well, you know, if if a little better offensive performance by Miami, maybe they win that game.

But the point being is that.

The defenses were the dominant.

You know, Ole Miss didn't have one.

That's why they they were limited in how far they could go.

And we see it in what happened in the NFL this year where it was the defensive teams.

And by the way, two defensive coaches making it to the Super Bowl, which might be a first.

I'm with you.

There's something, you know, sometimes some guys are too good to be true.

And you're like, boy, I hope I'm not missing something here.

Let me go a little bit.