Ciarán Murphy

This isn't serious.

And if you've got this, you know, Gianni Brera is the Italian writer who's supposed to have said that the perfect game is nil-nil.

because nobody made a mistake.

And... Well, first of all, it's obviously not true.

Yeah, but what happens when, like, oh, mistakes don't matter?

Like, what is this hippie bullshit?

You know?

Like, that's not what the world is.

Like, this man, Gianni Brera, was shaped by war.

You know, he fought for, he fought in the Italian army.

Then he fought against the Italian army or against the German army as a partisan.

I mean, you know, you have to, there's an element of going with the flow.

But, you know, he survived the war.

He boasted, I never killed anyone.

Yeah.

I never killed another human being.

But what he did do was he saw, he saw a lot of, he saw a lot of good men die, right?

He saw, he saw what happened.

He saw, he learned it was in the marrow of his bones, what it meant when mistakes were made.

And he saw goals conceded in similar kind of terms.