Claire Donald

But it

We could and we should, in a way.

Well, it's a great place to start, you guys.

I'm so excited to talk about Shonda.

So shall we just get into it?

Okay, Tess.

Shonda Rhimes didn't just become successful in television.

She completely rewrote who television was for.

She built an empire around emotionally complicated women, morally messy characters, and power dynamics that Hollywood had avoided for decades.

And she did it while quietly becoming one of the most powerful women in entertainment.

And the richest.

No, it's...

Like, my God, the money.

I mean, she deserves it, but like, it's a lot of money.

And we'll be talking about that cash later on, so don't you worry.

A little motivation for everybody.

So Tess, to start off, one of the most powerful women in the entertainment industry, she's working.

Can you guess her sign?

Virgo.

close Capricorn that's right okay okay we're back thank you for the Virgo of course well we knew it was an earth sign it has to be she and like tell me astrology isn't real that Shonda Rhimes is a Capricorn yeah she is isn't she such a Capricorn so Shonda Rhimes was born on January 13th 1970 in Chicago Illinois she is the youngest of six children wow so talk about little sibling energy is she this oh my god she's the youngest of six imagine