Claire Donald

Okay, I'm interested to see how that, like, plays out in her life.

Because sometimes little sibling energy, like, for Tess and myself, it showed up in a way that, like, we could not shut the fuck up and, like, had to be the center of attention.

Of course.

For Shonda, it showed up in the way of, like, I'm going to be kind of by myself and observant and not quite be the center of attention.

But then it can also be like, but look all...

like i'm gonna do some in the future and like it's because of that you know what i mean because i've been watching exactly exactly tess so her mother vera was a college professor who earned her phd while raising the family

Women can do it all.

Oh, my God.

Women's History Month.

And her father was a university administrator that later became the chief information officer at the University of Southern California.

Some little smarty pants all around.

Such an academic family.

Shonda was very shy, introverted, and observant.

She was deeply imaginative.

And her parents knew that she was kind of an unusual kid, but they really encouraged that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so as a kid, which I relate to, she loved making up stories.

Did you ever, like, bring a Troomer, perhaps, to school?

Claire.