Claire Stephens

And we do kind of think, like I honestly think that those terms have become so widely used and so familiar that you genuinely don't picture what it actually looks like.

And I think if any of us saw footage of what a lot of high profile people are accused of, we just could not endorse them.

I don't know.

It's very much caught up.

Well, her statement was interesting in the wake of it.

So she responded to the video's release through a representative to People.

And the response said, releasing an old video which conveniently omits context is a reprehensible attempt to distract from his own behaviour.

Right.

Yes.

Not that we know that.

Yes, but it's a fascinating statement because you just think –

there's absolutely no excuse there's there's no there is no excuse for the violence that you that you saw in that video and it it was not the response that the public needed but my question is did you watch the show secret lives of mama no i i wonder if part of it was that that also kind of sanitized it and just dismissed it and so they thought they could get away with this

Yes, yes.

And interestingly, both the production company that created Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and production company that are doing The Bachelorette are both owned by Disney.

And so it is very interesting, one, that it's Disney and that it's kind of this fairy tale idea, but also that

that it's the same, you know, it's the same powers that be that clearly thought, okay, this is the kind of scandal that gets us ratings, and this is the kind of person who gets us ratings, and now have turned around and said, oh, not like that.

Not like that.

Have you ever been at work and thought, why did I fight nap time so hard in preschool?

That's me every day around midday.

What I would do for a little cot and some quiet time, maybe a lovely person stroking my back and telling me to relax.