Claire Stephens

doesn't really focus on right now.

Like, the Modern Love interview that I have listened to, she says, I married a harm, I wanted a traditional marriage, I thought that we'd have a baby and buy a house.

And when she's asked at the very end, okay, so you thought that, how do you feel now?

She's sort of like, oh, well, it changed.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

One thing I've seen that I thought

was quite clever was that perhaps we are looking at instead of Lindy West the person with a whole lot of nuances because you're exactly right like you press pause on a memoir you're married but I mean that's what's always so fascinating about any fairy tale narrative is it's like and the after that and then what happened is it's always messy that's what life is

But I think people are looking at Lindy West, the symbol, and they're looking at this person who in the 2010s taught them to love themselves and accept themselves and very much taught them, for example, she was always really great with that troll conversation that she's known for.

She was really great at kind of...

how to respond to people being dicks, basically.

Yes.

And a little bit of a twist.

This is a bit gossipy, but, you know, the Outlouders love a little bit of gossip.

A journalist from Slate went to Lindy West's cabin.

Yes, well, so I think people are also a little bit annoyed in that they've held Lindy West up as a symbol and they feel like there's a bit of contradiction going on.

So long story short, Slate...

the publication profiled Lindy West and interviewed both Roya and Aham.

And when the profile came out, which was incredibly balanced and I didn't see anything snarky in it at all, it was very pro-Lindy, the journalist had a line where she just said, Aham and Roya weren't at the house when I interviewed Lindy, they were working on a shared project elsewhere.

And Aham sent a very aggressive message