Claire Stephens

So he has to re-win his Senate seat.

There are midterm elections in the US in November.

He has to win because if he doesn't win the Senate seat, he can't really run for president.

But people think he'll win the Senate seat.

And then after that is when he can switch from, oh, no, I couldn't possibly run for president to, yes, I'm running.

Now I need billions of dollars in order to run.

So watch this space for November.

In terms of that like attention economy thing and who's going to win out, Gavin Newsom is very much the opposite of what we're talking about.

about here.

If you want the terminally online tells you every single thought.

He's governor of California.

He's always fighting with Trump online.

He very much takes him on.

It's gonna depend on whether people want that kind of like loud personality who's very aggressive, very confrontational with Trump, or if people want someone a little bit more cerebral, someone a little bit more in the Obama introvert mold.

I think that there's kind of like a common ground here, which seems and is very reasonable in both perspectives.

Like you mentioned that they want agreeable, kind wives, these CEOs.

I think that seems like a fine goal.

Well, slightly related, but different things.

They tend to be intertwined.

Yeah.