Clare Stephens

Yeah, she came across really, people really liked Jackie.

She was great.

candidates because if people like them if they have likability we have to admit that's a lot of what's missing they're already halfway there it's a good litmus test yeah will people vote for you like abby chatfield won um i'm a celebrity get me out of yes and it's like i'm sorry but if she if she ran she would have been tapped for sure the greens would have been on the phone to abby once or twice about that don't you think people should be shaking in their boots if she decides to run for some

kind of office.

Oh my God.

We would like her to be a friend.

And it could have been a bit.

Yeah, it could have been a bit.

They do look annoying.

Oh, yeah.

I would like to put on the record that...

A pig is a, I'm going to say a wild animal.

They grow and Lena Dunham actually does explain like there's not really any such thing as a teacup pig and I think that's a really important PSA for everyone.

If you think you're buying a teacup pig, you're going to just end up with a full-blown pig and it's probably going to have spoiled eggs in it.

I still do think, you know, I looked at –

Research spoiled pig syndrome, definitely a thing that pig trainers talk about.

But I do want to just say there is a difference between a wild pig and a human being, okay?

I do.

It does speak to me in a way, but not as literally as some of the kind of signs that your pig has spoiled pig syndrome, because some of those signs are biting, charging, growling, snapping, squealing constantly.

Yes.