Clay Travis

And I've kind of talked with Buck about this, but this anti-traumatic,

trans agenda is actually now i would say under 20 year olds particularly boys are just over the bs on a level that i don't think society has really recognized yet carol because they're saying oh you know it's people over the age of 50 that just don't get the trans world and they're the ones that are bigots and transphobes and everything else i actually think the younger kids see it for the absurdity that it is on a level that's not being talked about yet

Since we've already been talking about the most difficult topic on the planet, which is trans-related surgeries, I'm going to throw you another tough universe to step into.

And I don't know if we've asked you this yet, Carol.

I believe that it would be fair to call you a Swifty in that you and your daughter have been to many Taylor Swift concerts.

And among the greatest of all my predictions is that Taylor Swift is the modern day Beatles.

Buck Sexton is outraged by my comparison of the two.

Is that a crazy opinion in your mind?

And how would you assess it through not only the prism of your own life, but also through your daughters and presumably many of her friends that have a strong affinity for Taylor Swift?

But do you think that Taylor Swift is... Are you going to sign on with my take or are you Buck's take that this is a ridiculous take?

Yes.

She's an astute observer of the human condition and regularly analyzes in a perceptive way the larger media ecosystem.

I've always said that.

I mean, I just think that you look at the Beatles, maybe has the biggest impact on...

She's coming after the mustache.

Carol, I have grown.

The beard has started to come back in.

The mustache is longer.

I'm going to make a decision going forward how exactly this decision is going to go.

But, I mean, look, let's be honest.