Clayton Echard

So, yeah, it definitely like after that, that individual, I didn't try to date because I just was like, look, this will be every single woman.

And why not?

Yeah, I was going to say, did it affect your trust in other women and women in general?

Yeah, not as much as people might have thought it would, but it has at times.

I mean, there have been multiple... Has it stopped me and made me celibate?

No.

I think this is where the male brain with testosterone and these animal brains of ours, sometimes we just shift into one gear and we don't think about rationally on the other side until we have that moment of clarity afterwards.

And then we go...

I need to do that, right?

Like, that's when those moments would hit where I was, that's where I would panic.

I'd be like, Clayton, like, you could find yourself right back in this scenario, like, because Laura was normal until she wasn't.

Like, I talk about it in the podcast, but there was a point at which, like, she just snapped.

Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget it was, you know, the next day after we had hooked up and she was hoping that we could continue to talk and date.

And I told her, hey, that was the one time thing and I'm not interested in pursuing this further.

She began to cry.

And that's when I knew something was off because I had just met this woman.

So I'm like, this woman's now hysterically crying and begging for me to date her.

And I've only talked to this woman for like five days.

So that was the first sign of the extreme emotion.

But then when I finally said, no means no, stop asking me to date you, because I became agitated when she kept begging.