Clementine Breen
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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Because the therapy that I was doing was so surface level and wasn't actually addressing any issues in my mind. It was just creating more issues. Why did you come to that conclusion? Because they kept affirming that I was somehow intrinsically male and that would solve all my problems. And then once I... match the outward appearance of a male and I didn't feel better, they had no answers for me.
That therapist barely spoke about my gender. We didn't even discuss it. We've talked about it maybe once. We went over it and I said, yeah, I've been trans identified. And then we just sort of only really dealt with my childhood trauma, my sexual assault.
We went through dialectical behavioral therapy, and then I also did something called imaginal exposure therapy, which sort of helped me remember a lot of the gaps that I didn't... actually have filled in and then once we did that we just did a lot of general talk therapy.
The number one thing that I think was helpful that we talked about is how that experience from childhood made me think about what it meant to be female and what external factors. And what did you conclude? I concluded that I had been attributing a lot of self-hatred to femaleness
I had been putting a lot of my own experiences onto femaleness as a whole, and I had been taking that out of myself for a very long time.
Any medication associated with that? I was on medication when I was 15. I started being put on antipsychotics and antidepressants.
Yeah.
No, I went off the psych meds around the time I was going to therapy with a second therapist. And then I stopped testosterone after that.
Why? I think the main factor was definitely the testosterone because... Okay, so that quelled the psychosis symptoms.
I think it was because I was actually going through therapy that was actually talking about my issues and not just... Right, so you think you got to the cause, the actual cause.
I started really focusing on what I wanted my life to look like on my terms and not just how I could fit into other things and started trying to focus on more goal-oriented things rather than letting my mental problems be the main focus of my life.
Yeah, we just sort of talked about things I like and things I'm really passionate about beyond gender, beyond my mental health issues and what I really love doing. And that gave me sort of a focus and purpose. I mean, I love theater, I love literature, and that gave me a lot of drive to go to school as well.
I mean, that sort of came second in a way because we were going through this whole therapy process and not really talking about... my gender at all. And then sort of after I was done with therapy, I'm in college, I'm much better off.
And that's when I came to the decision I wanted to transition because I had built a life around me that had nothing to do with my gender and I had reconciled with my own problems. And that's sort of when I came to the conclusion that there was no reason to keep presenting as male.
So how did you do that? It was really, really difficult. And once I sort of started to think about it and think about, do I really want to do this? skipping injections and missing testosterone doses and just everything around me sort of came crashing down and I just started feeling this tremendous grief about what I had just done. It was really jarring.
No.
Right. I I started to think about things other than myself and thinking about school and what I wanted for my future, which led me to the conversation in my own head of, do I want kids one day? Which also helped with that realization. Okay, so what did you realize? I wanted kids and I could not picture myself as someone's father. And I really tried to picture it. Oh, okay, that's interesting.
No, I just couldn't picture it in my mind really. Right, but then you started becoming able to do that. Yeah, once I was older and actually in college and thinking about my future in a way that was more tangible, it started to hit me.
The lawsuit specifically is because Olson Kennedy, and she said this in countless interviews and talked about this very openly, she doesn't believe in gatekeeping. And she's very open about how she doesn't think it's possible that... mental health comorbidities could ever affect someone's gender identity.
And I just want to say that that is so wrong and that's directly hurt and ruined, in my eyes, my life. And I think that that approach to healthcare is so dangerous. And it's not just dangerous, it's malpractice, at least in cases like mine. And I think the reason for talking about it so publicly is I also just want to spread awareness that this does happen.
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