Clover Hope
Appearances
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
LGQ. Yes, I love it. I love it. I'm going to use that cadence now. Thank you.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Unfortunately, I have to be in between.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
It's balance. Yeah, it's balance. I'm a lover. Although I would say I skew toward hater because like I enjoy critique and I enjoy just kind of like looking at the sides of things that people aren't thinking about. So maybe I would skew towards hater. But a lover at heart, I think.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Yeah, it seemed obvious. He's had a banner year. He's also had a banner beef year. He's been in the spotlight.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Ever since Roc Nation took over, you know, like organizing the Super Bowl halftime, I think 2019, like it's been more of a push toward, I would say, relevancy and people who are kind of stars in the moment working toward legacy or like relevancy and legacy as like a metric of who performs at the Super Bowl halftime.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
So it didn't it was kind of like, oh, yeah, the same way Usher and Rihanna made sense. It was like, yeah, Kendrick makes sense. My initial thought was that he would just bring out Lil Wayne. But then I remembered the Drake beef. So I was like, ah, right. Actually.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
It's just a Tuesday. Nikki. Yeah. She can get a bit. Sorry, Barb's unhinged. Also, she's one of those people who's like on the defense, like ready to go at all times. If someone says anything about her or anybody close to her or anybody she's associated with. Colleague. whoever. Yeah, it wasn't, like, surprising.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
He's not that old, but he started really young.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
So I think it's, you know, he was like a teenager when he kind of entered the rap game. And through Young Money and Cash Money, that No Limit era in the 90s, most of his life has been in hip hop or just kind of like living in hip hop. So I do think he's a rap legacy artist. It's definitely... You know, like classic albums and, you know, like all of that.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
So her point about the actual like style influence is a valid one.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Yeah. And I actually hadn't really like that's kind of like, oh, yes, he did the face hats, which I wish he didn't.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
And sometimes in like the 2000s. And someone did confuse me as like, yeah. As a stud lesbian. Yeah. So it was a great moment.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Wait, is Wayne a Libra also? Sorry, I just remembered that.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Keep that in. Keep that in first question. Wait, is Wayne a Libra? Because I did get a Libra vibe from him. So, yeah, I interviewed him. I interviewed Wayne back in 2007 for a XXL cover. It was during a drought in Atlanta in his trailer. And the significant thing about that is that the takeaway from the interview, the big quote was, I'm not hot, I'm great.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
And so his point in saying that was just kind of like, I don't want to be like the hot person in the moment. Like I'm reaching for greatness, like beyond this point, like down the line. And so when I think about, you know, like Super Bowl and like how they... you know, how they have chosen performers like throughout the years, you know, it has been moving more toward relevancy.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
So I think in a way he might understand it's moving toward like, I'm hot right now. Like Kendrick is hot right now. And Wayne is like more like not in the forefront as much. So he's like, he's not hot. He's great. But it is like what he wanted basically.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Yeah. Like, that's the relevancy part. Like, he hasn't, he hasn't, like, put out material in recent years that's been kind of, like, and obviously, like, in the same way Kendrick, that, like, it reaches a broad audience. Yeah. Unfortunately, like they are looking for people who kind of like hit all those, you know, markers like the Dr. Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent kind of like show for solo rap artists.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
I do get it that, you know, like it's New Orleans, like you want it to be like New Orleans specific. But yeah, it's it's like it's kind of I see a both sides thing again. I'm sorry, Libra. It's like I get why he's upset. On the other hand, it's kind of like. Yeah, like Kendrick, this is his moment. Yeah.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Yeah. Yeah. He was the right pick. The selection doesn't necessarily have to depend on the host city. Like, you know, I think it's great when that does align. But, you know, like it's if you're in Tampa, like I forget who performed that when I think it was maybe The Weeknd, you know, who's representing Tampa. Yeah. So...
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
No. No. I was like, what the hell?
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Right. The night time.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Okay, let's be honest about that. Miami, maybe. Yeah. Because, yeah, Tampa doesn't jive. So I didn't really, yeah, it made sense to me that Kendrick would. I also didn't know it was in New Orleans, like, at first. I don't know. The whole city is kind of, like, a nice factor, but I don't know how much that plays into, like, how they choose and act, so...
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Yeah, there is. I mean, I feel that way about just like the halftime show in general. It's a huge platform. It's also if you're really kind of gung ho about like anti-NFL, anti-football or just kind of, you know, like the Colin Kaepernick crowd crew, like you wouldn't perform in the first place. So I do think we would probably put Kendrick in that bucket.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
But he's kind of been towing this line between being that kind of Messiah type person and then being like a commercial artist. And probably feeling like the realistic part of that is like, all right, well, I want this platform, this NFL platform. He wants to be recognized, like in his legacy to be recognized.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
He could have said no, but he's doing it partly, I assume, to kind of like stamp his place as like, all right, I have done this big show. And like, this is like just another notch on my legacy belt, basically.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
He can't do Not Like Us five times.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
So I think Kendrick can have like a Beyonce level moment in terms of theatrics. And he's great at putting on a show. Like we know that he's great at telling a story through his show. And I think that's what I would be looking for. Just kind of like, what is the narrative he's kind of presenting here?
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Because most of his performances, whether it's like an award show or just kind of his tours, like he has some sort of meaning behind it. Or if it's like, you know, tied to an album, there's definitely some aspect of a personal statement. So that's what I'll be looking for. Just kind of, all right, what story about yourself are you putting out? Are you making this more about Drake?
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
Are you trying to kind of like stomp on him like definitively? Or is it just kind of, no, I'm actually not going to talk about him at all. Like he's not going to do that. Maybe he doesn't do that song at all. And he's just like the bigger kind of, that's probably not going to happen. But like the bigger thing to do maybe would be to ignore it.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
And just kind of for people to be expecting that and him not and do something else like subversive.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
On Instagram and Twitter, but mostly Instagram. I don't really tweet as much.
Lemme Say This
Encore: Did You Remember The Drake Beef? (with Clover Hope) | 32
And in bookstores. Online. Also, I have an audiobook version of the book that's on Audible. And there are several narrators. Myself, Lauren London, MC Lyte, Nia Long, Remy Ma, Angie Martinez. Yes. Chloe Bailey. Bitch. Wow.