Coco Kahn

And should we be worried that the government, I mean, they seem to not be relenting on this.

They're saying they're going to appeal.

Presumably, they're going to keep pushing on protest rights.

These proposals about getting rid of juries, I understand that there's cost saving around it.

And perhaps actually there's a feeling amongst the public that we'll leave it to the legal professionals.

Look what's happened in this high court case.

The judges found something, you know, they're not afraid to stand up for people's rights.

But why actually is this something we must be very, very scared about?

Final question, though.

How hopeful are you about the next hearing?

That's your permanent status.

So we all hoped we'd seen the back of Britain's shortest serving PM, Liz Truss.

Her time in office was a total disaster.

Faster than you can say lettuce, she'd managed to wreak havoc.

But if you fail in the UK, there's always Trump's America.

So for listeners, the photo is of Truss and Trump with their arms around each other at Mar-a-Lago in Florida.

Truss is grinning.

She's finally got the prize she always wanted.

Trump looks old, looks extremely old, which is strange.

I think he obviously...