Coco Kahn

Cody, your video impersonating Keir Starmer's advisor as scouting out Palestine action terrorists.

I think it summed up the sentiment well.

I mean, obviously, we always love a Cody clip on this show, but there is news around the placard as weapon business.

I really do want to cling on to the fact that this is historic and this is a win, even though you have really laid out all the caveats.

Thank you for that, Tom.

These systems take time.

And I hope that it will work its way through.

And then, you know, all of these cases and charges and all of it will be dropped.

But I do wonder if in the round, the chilling effect that was intended, well, I certainly feel like was intended, to kind of get people to think twice about protesting at all, whether that still has been achieved.

I mean, what do you think about what's happened to protest rights in the UK?

And should we be worried that the government, I mean, they seem to not be relenting on this.

They're saying they're going to appeal.

Presumably, they're going to keep pushing on protest rights.

These proposals about getting rid of juries, I understand that there's cost saving around it.

And perhaps actually there's a feeling amongst the public that we'll leave it to the legal professionals.

Look what's happened in this high court case.

The judges found something, you know, they're not afraid to stand up for people's rights.

But why actually is this something we must be very, very scared about?

Final question, though.

How hopeful are you about the next hearing?