Coco Kahn
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19 recordings
2 series
first heard Sep 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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How do we push back on the politics of people like Donald Trump? Because it's terrifying. It is really scary. And Yeah, I hope it brings us closer together and we're all more animated and energised after we've obviously recovered from this terrible shock.
But now, on to what admittedly feels like a bit of a small story, I suppose, amidst this big bombshell, we have a new Conservative Party leader. The Tories have embraced Kemi Badenoch, the madness and the meanness of Kemi Badenoch. She's in the hot seat.
I keep having this thing where I'm like, what's worse? Because Jenrick... I mean, we'll talk to our next guest about it more deeply. But, you know, Jenrick struck me as being a bit of an opportunist, whereas Kemi is a true believer in her terrible things she says.
I mean, that is quite extraordinary.
Well, in a way, you know, she sort of reveals some of the problems about representation and diversity writ large, probably bigger than we've ever had before. Maybe it's a good thing that we have these conversations about, you know, race and gender. And don't forget class, because Kemi is actually working class, as she told GB News.
I mean, that's not how class works. You don't become working class because you work a few shifts in McDonald's.
It's just so ridiculous.
I'm actually a cyber criminal. In amongst my other various hats that I wear as a working class McDonald's worker. But anyway... Well, let's find out how weird things are going to get. Here's a taste of Kemi Badenoch's victory speech.
The Liberal Democrats have been quite outspoken about this. Lib Dem leader Ed Davey called the results a dark, dark day for people around the globe and said that the world's largest economy and most powerful military will be led by a dangerous, destructive demagogue. Do you think this could be a problem with other parties?
Do you think that... Let's, for talk's sake, call it a unity cabinet, which I find unity, Kemi Badenoch, not two words that sit well in my head. But do you think that would be able to hold, though? I mean, my impression of Badenoch, and perhaps I'm wrong, is that, you know, she really believes all the things she says.
Does that not mean if Badenoch is a true believer, so to speak, won't that mean that cabinet will just fall apart anyway? Potentially.
Do you think that... You know, we've just started off this conversation talking about the US election. Donald Trump has a close relationship to Nigel Farage. That makes him more of an asset, you could say, to the right side of Commons. Do you think that this could be the worst possible result for the Conservatives or...?
Unsurprisingly, this went down like a lead balloon with Commonwealth leaders who in their conference agreement insisted that the time has come for a conversation about reparatory justice. Joining us now is Belle Ribeiro-Addy, the Labour MP for Clapham and Brixton Hill and chair of the all-party parliamentary group for African reparations to discuss what justice might look like.
Belle, welcome to Pod Save the UK.
It also makes me think, you know, we're all talking about a Labour government for 10 years. And this is a bit of a shock because it kind of reminds you, oh no, I mean, anything could change at the next election even. Absolutely.
And we had an episode with Laura Trevelyan and Clive Lewis, and they were talking about, you know, the case of reparations as well. And there was one insight that really stuck with me where they were talking about what would the money that the UK pays to, let's just say, a Caribbean nation, what would it be used for? Well, probably a substantial amount of it would be for climate security.
You would say that actually a move like this would make the world a safer place, a better place, would not only be moral, but smart.
You know, what you've outlined there are quite radical changes and I would argue would threaten a lot of positions of power of certain people, certain organisations. And so perhaps that would explain some of the reluctance. But before that, surely saying sorry is free. We could just do that.
I do just want to ask you, though, it must have provoked a bit of soul searching in the Labour Party, though. You know, yet to have a woman leader, you know, not doing so great on issues of race. I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. What do you think?
Interesting. Absolutely. I would just add, sorry, we'll let you go, Bill. But I just, I'm very aware, you know, we're talking to you and you're in Diane Abbott's office. We're just talking.
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