Coco Kahn

Our theme music is by Vasilis Fotopoulos.

Our theme music is by Vasilis Fotopoulos.

The executive producers are Anishka Sharma and Madeleine Herringer, with additional support from Ari Schwartz.

The executive producers are Anishka Sharma and Madeleine Herringer, with additional support from Ari Schwartz.

As Labour conference comes to a close, Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have declared war on tax dodgers and COVID corruption.

As Labour conference comes to a close, Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have declared war on tax dodgers and COVID corruption.

And I'm Coco Kahn. And this is Podsafe for UK.

And I'm Coco Kahn. And this is Podsafe for UK.

Well, let's get into it. Here's a clip of the Prime Minister addressing that very Labour Party conference.

Well, let's get into it. Here's a clip of the Prime Minister addressing that very Labour Party conference.

So do you think that, because obviously Starmer's... His opinion rating is quite low. I think there is still a problem where people don't understand what he stands for. I was hearing a conversation about him the other day and people talking about how even with Blair, his line was, he's a modern man for a modern Britain. And almost his youth in adopting technology, that was part of the brand.

So do you think that, because obviously Starmer's... His opinion rating is quite low. I think there is still a problem where people don't understand what he stands for. I was hearing a conversation about him the other day and people talking about how even with Blair, his line was, he's a modern man for a modern Britain. And almost his youth in adopting technology, that was part of the brand.

And people still don't fully know what the brand Starmer is. Do you think this corrected it a bit?

And people still don't fully know what the brand Starmer is. Do you think this corrected it a bit?

So let's have a think about some of those issues then. Starmer had lots to say on migration. He said that net immigration is too high and claimed that taking back control, the old Brexiteer slogan, is actually a Labour argument. So what is he trying to achieve here, Zoe?

So let's have a think about some of those issues then. Starmer had lots to say on migration. He said that net immigration is too high and claimed that taking back control, the old Brexiteer slogan, is actually a Labour argument. So what is he trying to achieve here, Zoe?

I had this little moment the other day where I was thinking, wow, over the summer, loads of us were scared to leave our houses. And now we're just expected to just forget about it. And it's weird. I think gaslighting is a really hoist word you use there. Yeah, I hear it.

I had this little moment the other day where I was thinking, wow, over the summer, loads of us were scared to leave our houses. And now we're just expected to just forget about it. And it's weird. I think gaslighting is a really hoist word you use there. Yeah, I hear it.

From one thing that disgusts you to another. This was my personal... I'm going to be quiet for a little bit. So one of the things that Starmer was keen to emphasise was a... Back down on benefits for all. That was his language, prompting critics within the party to say it was almost like George Osborne speaking again. I have to say this was my area of feeling like absolute disgust.

From one thing that disgusts you to another. This was my personal... I'm going to be quiet for a little bit. So one of the things that Starmer was keen to emphasise was a... Back down on benefits for all. That was his language, prompting critics within the party to say it was almost like George Osborne speaking again. I have to say this was my area of feeling like absolute disgust.