Trump wins: where the hell do we go from here? w/ Katy Balls + Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP

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Nish Kumar 0:00
Okay, well, oh boy.
Coco Kahn 0:02
Just one foot in front of the other. It's okay. It's just another four years.
Nish Kumar 0:08
Could be quite a lot more than another four years.
Coco Kahn 0:10
Right. So not going to be okay then. Hi, this is Podsafe the UK. I'm Coco Kahn.
Nish Kumar 0:18
And I'm Nish Kumar. And oh shit, it happened.
Coco Kahn 0:23
Yeah, I'm still in shock. I'm still processing. How are you feeling?
Nish Kumar 0:27
Yeah, I mean, I'm feeling, I feel like I've been punched in the face.
Coco Kahn 0:30
Yeah.
Nish Kumar 0:31
And I've not been punched in the face for quite a while, which is a surprise because I'm quite annoying. But anyway, today we'll be discussing what the cataclysmic US elections mean for the UK with The Spectator's political editor, Katie Balls, and talking about the new Tory leader, Kemi Badenoch.
Coco Kahn 0:45
And Foreign Secretary David Lammy has ruled out transfers of cash to countries blighted by slavery across the British Empire. So what could reparations look like instead? We're joined by Labour MP Belle Ribeiro-Addy. So as we record, it's a cold, grey and miserable morning, which seems fitting given the context. As we record, the final victory has just been confirmed. So congratulations for Donald Trump's victory are already rolling in from world leaders.
Nish Kumar 1:18
Yes, that's right. Yeah, it's Wednesday and we're still sort of processing what that means. We don't know the full results other than we know that Trump is... going to be elected president and the Republican Party will control the Senate. We're still waiting on House races. We understand that for our American listeners, this is an extremely difficult day and you are in our thoughts. We, as a kind of UK based political podcast that operates under the crooked arm, are also pivoting to what this means for us and obviously what this means globally. I guess the short term concerns will be what this election means for Netanyahu, who has been sort of openly cheerleading for the Republican Party in recent weeks and what that means for the situations in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran.
Nish Kumar 2:12
What this means for the Ukrainian army is obviously of huge interest to all European countries. And also, I mean, what this means on the climate crisis because of Trump's total hostility to climate science. What does this mean in the kind of medium term? You know, we're already seeing footage of large parts of Spain that have been underwater. So I guess we're all worried about...
Coco Kahn 2:39
Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way. I'm also worried. I'm still very much in shock. Genuinely, I'm still blown away. Look, what I really hope doesn't happen now is that us as progressives or people who are interested in progressive ideas and really needed more than ever progressive thinking. are divided too much. I hope we don't get the results come in about what groups voted for who and now we're all blaming the Muslims because they didn't get into line or we're all blaming black Americans because they had their reservations about the former prosecutor. I hope we can just have some soul searching as progressives and sort of say we are needed more than ever. What can we do? How do we push back on the politics of people like Donald Trump? Because it's terrifying. It is really scary. And Yeah, I hope it brings us closer together and we're all more animated and energised after we've obviously recovered from this terrible shock.
Nish Kumar 3:33
So look, now the polls are closed. Your friends at Crooked Media have got you covered. to dig through whatever comes next in this clusterfuck. So here's what you can expect. What a day is fresh in your feeds every morning with Jane Coaston easing you into the biggest stories and making sense of what you need to know in just 20 minutes. Pod Save America has a new episode daily diving deep into the results and where we go from here because no one should have to be alone with their thoughts after this disaster. Check out Hysteria, Love It or Leave It, Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams and more on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Coco Kahn 4:06
But now, on to what admittedly feels like a bit of a small story, I suppose, amidst this big bombshell, we have a new Conservative Party leader. The Tories have embraced Kemi Badenoch, the madness and the meanness of Kemi Badenoch. She's in the hot seat.

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