CoffeeZilla

But it has worked leading up to this particular wobbly situation.

So before that, wasn't there a public perception of him being

A force for good, a financial force for good?

Yeah, the catalyst that revealed the fraud.

What role did they play?

Could they have helped alleviate some of the pain of investors, of people that held funds there?

Yeah, I mean...

So the backdoor between FTX and Alameda Research.

Do you think CZ saw through who SPF is?

What he's doing?

Like a good shark or a bad shark?

I don't know.

I think- My relationship with shark has like finding Nemo.

There's a shark in that.

I don't know.

Who do you think suffered the most from this so far?

That's the really difficult truth of this is that, especially in the culture of cryptocurrency, there's a lot of young people who are not diversified.

They're basically all in on a particular crypto.

And it just breaks my heart to think that there's somebody with $50,000 or $30,000 or $20,000.

But the point is that money is everything they own.