Colm Tóibín

She was very lucky.

Her hair had stayed that color all her life.

Really?

Your Irish grandmother?

Your other grandmother sounds like an item.

Yeah, there's a wonderful painting where he paints her with her hands like this.

And I found that very interesting, you know, as to how you think about your mother.

And it's very tender, and you see her very vulnerable.

I thought that was a really good painting.

Yeah, both of my brothers died.

My younger one, I've never, you know, you never, I don't know what should happen.

But there's no, there's nothing you can do to bring him back.

And he died on a Saturday night.

Sometimes it hits me harder on a Saturday night.

When it's coming to Saturday night, it comes into my mind.

And, you know, it's about, it's in Henry James where he says about, I think it's Millie Thiel in The Wings of the Dove, she would have given anything to have lived.

Yeah.

And he had bought a house in South Wexford.

And it was, I mean, honestly, the big debates we have take up so much time.

I was arguing that he needed to take out the ceilings and make a big high room, a big high living room.