Craig Fehrman
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And so Jefferson thought the American, like he tried to get passports and like dot his eyes and cross his T's, but he knew at the end of the day, Lewis and Clark could just sneak by them and keep going.
Exactly.
Although the Spanish did almost find them.
That's another thing that's in the book is that the Spanish sent four different missions, more than a thousand soldiers to try to track down Lewis and Clark.
because they were pissed off.
Even after the Louisiana Purchase, Spain was still trying to stop American expansion.
And so at one point, this is a new thing in the book, I used native maps and compared them to Jefferson's documents.
The Spanish were within 100 miles of them.
So when we're talking the scope of the Great Plains, to get within 100 miles, that's as close as you can come and still miss.
There could have been an international war breaking out on the banks of the Missouri.
Right.
Well, the thing is, the lines were up for debate.
Okay.
Like, the Louisiana Purchase happened, but nobody knew what the Louisiana Purchase meant.
That's one reason Lewis and Clark were important, because they were going to get latitude and longitude readings and bring back enlightenment science to adjudicate this.
But one of the reasons that Lewis ends up meeting with the Blackfoot people is that Jefferson was like, no side missions.
Just focus on the rivers.
Just get there and back.
But once Lewis realized the Rocky Mountains are here, I'm not going to be able to find this river route that the president wants because Lewis and Jefferson were very close.
And so this was not just about doing a good job.
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