Craig Fehrman

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So what I know to do is go to the written text.
So that's what I would start with.
But then I would also do these interviews.
I would read lots of academic scholarship and these different points of view.
I almost felt like I wrote like 10 biographies because I'm trying to understand the world the way each person did.
So that's why it took five years.
But once I had like the academic scholarship and the journals themselves, I would often interview Native people.
And sorry, we're headed back to the Pacific Northwest.
But the Klatsop were a really good example.
I zoomed with some people from what's now called the Chinook Indian Nation because they have kind of subsumed the Klatsop and some other people.
And one of the people I talked to was a direct descendant of Cowboys.
And so when I talked to them, they were interviewing me as much as I was interviewing them.
Because this one guy named Tony, who was sort of the head of the Chinook Indian Nation, he said something to me that I thought about every day I worked on the book, where he was like, you know,
What we have left is our history and our stories, and we have shared that with people, and that's been exploited too.
And so it was not like they were like, Lewis and Clark, sweet, let's talk about it.
They had to interview me first, and they wanted to understand that I was willing to do the work and listen to them and sort of have that kind of conversation.
But they helped me so many ways.
There would be specific details, and again, in the book, I would say, according to clats of tradition.
But they would also point me in different directions.
Like there's this famous anthropologist named Frank Boas, and he recorded these stories way back in the 19th century of kind of like the tales, the literature of the Chinook and the Klatsa people.
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