Craig Hutchison

So why do you play this today, Hutchie?

But even on that, I've only met James a few times and I reckon he's outstanding, but I've heard him say on air a couple of times where someone, it might have been Gus Gould in a previous Origin coverage, throw back to him and say, well, what do you think, James?

And I've heard him say, Hutchie, I'm here to steer it.

I'm not here to give my opinion.

So he proudly presents himself as that person.

And I think that's a point of difference.

I don't want to be defensive of him, but what else could he say in that moment?

I think his point was pretty pertinent, that these players are still with other clubs.

I hadn't thought about it.

I wasn't even aware of the initial origins of the board role.

Go back to the Sydney Community League or Secondary League, as you said, Hutchie.

So I wasn't even aware of it until you've actually played that.

But, yeah, I mean, I do go back to the early days of Eddie Maguire and Brayshaw, and there's been others, but they've been the main two.

It's impossible.

It's actually impossible because of the –

The print media continually just deliberately waiting for the moment they can open you up.

And that's not a criticism either because that's what I used to do.

So you do do that.

Yeah, but it's more serious than being able to laugh off, isn't it?

These are, in the sporting context, actually life and death moments.