Craig MacTavish

And the other thing that's laughable to me is the perception that our bottom six are not productive because they don't get the opportunity.

I mean, it's a chicken and an egg argument.

Yeah, you've got to be productive.

And the reason Leon and Connor play 24 minutes is because

We don't make the playoffs if they don't play 24 minutes.

I mean, I watched it pretty heavily this year.

And, you know, yeah, it'd be nice if I was Chris Knobloch to cut Connor back to 18, 19 minutes, a couple games, third and fourth lines are rolling.

But that just doesn't happen on this team.

It's a fantasy to think that.

that it would happen given more opportunity.

It was unreal.

And what about Bennett?

Because it was either Leon or Bennett back in those days.

Both turned out to be pretty good players.

Yeah, but, yeah, big gap between the two of them, actually.

I've been down there before and kind of been a little bit shocked.

It's real.

They don't like us.

Well, you look at the avalanche, and, you know, like...

As I've said many times, to make the NHL, you've got to be a heck of a hockey player.