Craig Smith

So it's all these politics and shit I know you have to deal with because I've had a podcast network that is not as successful.

But at some point, dog, I know you just sometimes want to be like, man, fuck all these niggas.

Oh, my God.

When I seen him do the competition, I hate competitions.

Even though No Jumper's a great brand, I'm like, I could never do a competition because you got to get outside your body to impress someone.

He did, but I don't give a fuck what you think.

He thinks it's just about the moment and what the fuck we doing.

He motorboated himself?

Cause they have the tissue.

Yeah, you can hurt yourself.

I got a question for you.

Cause I've watched your shit for years, right?

What was the moment you decided to go from like the BMX shit, the biking shit to this?

Like what made you do that?

trajectory where all of a sudden like riding bikes which i had already kind of grew disillusioned with just didn't really feel like the thing to me anymore yeah okay yeah yeah that was dope that pivot is dope because every artist has that's relevant has had to pivot so many times i know i pivoted at least five or six times so that's always uncomfortable you know i mean because you got to look at you like what the am i doing wrong how do i

I graduated high school in 2000.

I'm an old dude.

I'm 44 and shit.

So I was just trying to rap for years, a failed rapper and shit, just putting out music and shit, going all the underground shit, trying to get my shit on Dub CNN radio.

And you were, you were Craig Smith as a rapper or you had a rap?