Crystal Kung Minkoff
Appearances
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like the first time you brought it up, I just played along and just tried to be cool and act like I knew what you were talking about. But it won't go away. You like brought like a bag full today. I'm like, OK, this is happening. So what is this and why am I holding it? And why do we care?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, that's cute.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
All right, I have a question. So just so I'm clear, because I've never heard of this until a week ago. And then you brought it back up again. And now I'm holding one. These are not just for children. Grown adults collect these as well. Yes, they're collector's items.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
So, I mean, it's a toy at the end of the day. Am I not, am I crazy? Is this not like a little cute stuffed animal?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Why is that one special?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
What about the clothes?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You are Chinese Oprah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
But what about clothes? I thought I was like, I saw something like they had clothes. Like Gucci. Like where do you buy their clothes?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
So it comes with, you have the option to buy the bear or whatever this is. And then the thing. What is this? What is this animal?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
It looks like cherries. It is cherries. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Well, I might. I recently came into a big sum of money. And I've recently lost a lot. Are you looking for an investor? It's been selling, buying these.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Have you been paid yet? I can confirm that I have not actually, the money has not hit my account.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
But I will be seeing the cast. tomorrow at a huge Hulu event, forgot to get out. And that is something that I will be asking. But I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, I know it's coming. I mean, Hulu do not want to smoke. Hulu do not want to smoke with me. I know it's coming. And the great thing about it is my partner, Stein is, you know, he's very trustworthy.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like I felt like that was part of picking.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
He was the one that ran. Like I used his legs to get out because I couldn't get out.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, I had the point of getting him. If I could run out, I would have did it myself and just escaped by myself. So he's technically the winner.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I pushed it after he got out.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
He was like a writer.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Steve, he tried to get out in a garbage can.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, he actually works for it. He's a journalist. He was relentless. He was actually really funny.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
But it was a fun game. You guys should all do the show. I'm sure it's going to get a second season. Everybody's talking about it. I can't even believe I won.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
They'll offer her. I'm like, oh, okay.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Well, that's next season.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Would you want to be a traitor or a faithful?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I didn't want that to get bypassed. I mean, it's really a compliment if you want to do the show.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, God. Okay, can we just go back to Traders? That transition, I thought his was good. This is a scene that I'm not getting in. Oh, my God. She said let's not talk about it.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, I won't talk about Atlanta Housewives. I won't talk about Got to Get Out, and I won't talk about Traders, but this is what I don't like about Traders. You didn't ask, but I just like to just say if I was on the show, which I hope I get to do it one day as well. I don't like if I'm casted as a faithful and then I become a traitor later.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like, I just want to be a faithful or I want to be a traitor. I don't like when they do that.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Well, as you can see, I'm not a mastermind with these competition shows. I just somehow.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, I thought that was great. I thought that was the perfect mixture.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Well, I like that the people that I did know, they were all interesting and I got to know them. And then it was like, I've never worked with, like I've worked with Kim on Housewives of Atlanta, but we were never like, super friendly on Housewives. So we were roommates. I got to actually get to know her and I really liked her and I'm going to see her tomorrow for the Hulu event or whatever.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And I know Omarosa, but I've never like slept in a twin size bed right beside her before. So, and she's like, you know, she was when she walked in, I was like, oh shit, shit just got real because she's good. But she was like super nice and like normal. Like as soon as she walked in, she was like, I got you sis. And I was like, Thank you, Lord. But anyway, yeah. What did you think of Spencer Pratt?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, Spencer was great. I actually didn't really know who he was, but everybody kept saying Spencer Pratt is in here. Like, I just don't know. If I know you, I know you. If I don't, I don't. And I love him. But I just didn't know that he was like Spencer Pratt. So... I didn't really focus on him a lot. He was kind of like a loner in there.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And then when I saw the show, of course he was like doing the most, but I just always saw him walking around looking for clues. I didn't even know he was really in play half of the time. He just was kind of doing his own thing. But I had my eye on my guy that got us out. We were the only ones to actually get out of the house.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And I liked him because he was like a little, he was quiet, very unassuming. But when I did talk to him, he did mention that he was like, you know, a big adventure guy. He's always like jumping off cliffs and going to all these crazy dangerous locations and doing all kinds of dangerous stuff.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And I was like, well, if he can do all that, he can run his ass out of this, down this driveway and get out the gate. I'm going to start crying. Why are you laughing? What? My headphones are wrong?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
This is much better. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Okay. All right. Well, then can we start over? I didn't hear the half part of the clock.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, I wouldn't say you're naked on a poster board and like people being like performing fellatio. No, it's not the same. I mean, as a housewife, you know, we've all been talked about and dragged to a certain degree. Totally. But I think if I had to pick one thing I wouldn't want to happen to me, it would be someone showing me to a performing place. Well, yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I don't know. Listen, I have done my last interview really speaking about it, to be honest, because I get asked about it all the time. And I've just already said what I've said, so I don't know. I don't really know.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You know what? I've been married and divorced twice and I was lucky enough for the men that I married to just let me be divorced and leave me alone after it wasn't working out anymore. So I'm so grateful for that. And then I see all these other divorces that are just so complicated. Like I look at Drew and Ralph and I just thank God. that I didn't marry Ralph. That's all I can say.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Is he kind of a bum? No, I love Ralph. He's a great guy. I'm just glad I didn't marry him because I'm like, I just, listen, I'm a Pisces. I'm a lover of love. When the shit is working, let it work. But when it's over, like they should just call it. Like it just shouldn't take all of this. Like, no, we can't break up and you live in the basement. Wow. No, I want you out of the house.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like, I preferably want you out of the state if possible. And he's like excited to live in the basement when that judge is going to court to live in the basement. It's just too much. It's just too much. I feel like there's no point of separating and getting a divorce and still living in the same house. Like, I get the whole thing.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like, I think, you know, the focus should always be the kids and what's going to be good for the kids. But I'm like if like I just like a quick like just make it in, just make it stop. I just think it's just not good. And it just feels like it's just going it's going to be worse. Like it just is going down a rabbit hole.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I understand what Angela was trying to do. But she's still getting to know Portia. I know Portia more than I know Angela. And I know like for Portia's birthday, when Portia's not fucking with you, she's not fucking with you. So I felt bad.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I love what Angela was trying to do, but I felt bad for Drew because I knew when she showed up, you know, it was not going to be a very welcoming situation for her.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Okay. We're on a TV show. We're going on a cast trip. We want all the cast to be. Yeah. But here's the thing. If a cast member is telling me, I do not want Cynthia to come. Matter of fact, they don't invite me. They make it very clear they don't want me to come. There's scenes with people telling me that she doesn't want me to come. I'm going to try my best to fight not to be there, to be on.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Because I know I'm walking into a very uncomfortable situation. That's true.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Which, I mean, it was her birthday, and it was a birthday celebration, and I think for your birthday celebration, you should get to be around the people that you, you know, curate the list to be around.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, that was far from being a peace brunch. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Leave me alone about it. You are a housewife. I know. I am a friend of the show, which means that I actually should have a very limited amount of smoke when it comes to real life.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You're asking me housewife questions when I'm a friend.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
They made you a man. OK, OK, that's true. I am. I am. I am a special friend. I will say that I do get good treatment. I do. But I think that's just an OG thing. It's just a respect thing. Yeah. And that's that's pretty cool. I mean, I mean, I was on the show. I was a housewife for over a decade. So thank you for throwing me like the respect.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Yeah, you're like the omniscient narrator now. I've been given my opinion. Like I literally have been on a press tour and I've been talking about this for two weeks and I just can't talk about it anymore. And of course, like no one's going to be like, oh, they just keep asking Cynthia this.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like the people on social media literally think I just want to get up and put my wig on and my CB4 hat on and talk about this all day long.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like you guys are pulling the words out of my mouth. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I'm so being bullied today. And I keep making it. And every time I do an interview, I'm like, so I'm just putting it out there that this is my last time talking about this situation. And every time I'm in another interview going, this is my last time talking about this situation. It's Kenya's fault. But this is it. Look, this is really the last time. At this point, I love Crystal talking about it.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You have some good points because you actually go and you read and you look at all the things and then you tell me. It's kind of like how I did for Beverly Hills. This is my thing where I'm like, I don't want to talk about this. This is someone that I was really good friends with. All right, Crystal.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
That's so true. I can't even imagine you guys talking about getting dicks sucked on Beverly Hills.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I know. And Atlanta's over here just doing sucking. You're all crazy over there. Sucking and I won't say the effort.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, I mean, no, because I'm like, I've had like three hours of sleep. Take advantage of her. I know.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I know. I know.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
What about that?
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And this was on one episode. All in one. And I think we're only, like, episode five or six.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, my God. That's such low hanging fruit for somebody. Let's talk about my leather pants. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Yes. They're in a LeBoume case. That's what you need to be selling. I feel like you get a lot of money for those leather pants. They're like famous. They are famous. They are. Yes, they are.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I'm not here. I'm good. I'm good.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
And so that feeling... It usually means you are the target.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
That's the time when you really have to be able to really back it up because we're all watching to see, OK, well, why do you feel this way? Yeah. And it just didn't seem like she had back. That's right. She just said, I feel this way. Yeah. That's not enough. And at a reunion, that's just not enough.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I'm speaking for Crystal as her manager. We would definitely put that deal on the table and consider it. We would not just. It wouldn't be a hard no for us. OK. Right, Crystal? Whatever.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
this is me and cynthia but seriously going back to like you know this housewife world that we live in and do you miss it and would you go back and all those things you know for me it's like although your situation like how you leave is how you leave your your exit was very different uh from my exit and very different from kenya's exit or nini's exit or whoever's exit
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I think that because it's like at the end of the day, it's entertainment, it's TV for all of you that watch the show. But for us, it's our job. And we really spend a lot of time with these women. So when we walk away, it's not like we never have to see these people again, like they're never going to talk about it again. It's not like we left a job at Starbucks and nobody cares.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
It's like it just lives on. It's almost bigger than we are in so many ways. So once we're done with it and we try to put it away and move on with our life, then it just turns into, well, would you go back? It just never really...
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
ends really so you never really even if you do miss it like you get even if you don't miss it you kind of you're forced to miss it in a way because people keep still talking about it yeah you see the the world yeah that like people won't let it go by the way that statement is it the world you're forced to miss you're forced to miss it like literally with the regular job you can go on and nobody really gives a shit with this type of job being this type of tv personality on this type of platform
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
It's like I always said, like the mafia, like when you get in, like it's hard to get out. And like you have to like it with the mafia. You have to like not get out of the mafia most of the time. You know what I mean? So it's very similar thing. And you're hard or hard. You're like, I don't miss it. I'm happy. I've moved on. I like my life. I like my family. I'm happy.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
But it never really goes away, especially if you were on it for any, you know, amount of years.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You can never get away from them. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Yeah. That's the best analogy.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Oh, we're great. We're actually really good. And I'm really, I say that just with my chest because I'm so happy that we've come so far because we had, you know, we started off as friends on the show. I came on the show with Nene and she was the breakout star. I will say it again for the 155th time. When you think of Real Housewives of Atlanta, you think of Nene Leakes.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Like that flower will always be given to her. But we are good. You know, we've just come full circle. We're able to hang out and have a good time together. She just recently started a YouTube as well, since we're talking about YouTubes. It seems like I felt like in a week, like five housewives started a YouTube from Atlanta the same way. I was like, wait, but Portia has a YouTube.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Can you start a YouTube? Needy started a YouTube. So long and short, I'm very happy to say that we're in a great place. And she actually invited me to do her YouTube. And I plan to do it. Is she going to come on Humble Brag? Oh, she's definitely bringing her ass on Humble Brag. If I do her YouTube, she will definitely be coming. Can you get her on The Vow Files? Okay, that's a little extra deal.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
It won't be before Humblebrag if she does.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
I've worked for that interview.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Soon. We're in Nashville now on the show. She pops up when we go to Grenada, so I think it's a couple more episodes.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
You talk to Phaedra a lot. No, no, it's just random. Like we're, she's a, well, I don't want to say what she is. I'm the only, I'm the only idiot that says what hotel. She's standing so inside. In room two. You really do. You, you. I know. I don't know how I haven't been kidnapped or whatever because I'm literally like, I'm over here, everyone. You just gotta warm, you just gotta warm her up.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
It's crazy. It's true.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
A mess. It just wrapped today with RZA and Joey. It is completely insane. We were crying laughing. It may be the funniest one yet.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
We're like chumps. We're official chumps.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Chump?
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E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
We were like shocked. We couldn't believe what they were saying. It wasn't even, they took over the pot. Like we just were listening.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
But make sure you guys watch Got to Get Out on Hulu if you haven't streamed it. It is a binger.
The Viall Files
E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
Yeah, it's good. It's eight episodes. And for the first time, I actually had a strategy in one of these competition rooms. What are you going to do with the money? Well, I got to get it first.
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E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
What are you going to buy us? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, I hadn't thought about it, to be honest. It's a lot of money. Well, I wish it was more. It was a million dollars on the table.
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E921 - Humble Brag Returns, Love Island Spinoff, Summer House, RHOA, Garcelle Unfollows & Got To Get Out
No, because you have to get a clue. And I never got a clue. So when I finally got a clue, I had to shoot my shot. You had to get out. I had to get out. Yeah, you got to get out. You can't hang around. You don't know. By the time it gets to a million, you don't know that you don't get an exit strategy.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Are you enjoying it?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Oh, it's just getting started.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Just getting started.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Thank you. We'd love being back.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
You've been on a cruise for three weeks.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Oh, okay. So you're not going to give me a little wellness check and see how my week went? I just get all the smoke. This is your wellness check, Cynthia. Yeah, it's your trip on the boat, Crystal, on the yacht. And then Cynthia, yeah. So what was the smoke with you and Chanel?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
You know what? She did. She did. We had a little thing to squash. I don't want to call it beef because it was small.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
yes yes if you guys haven't watched it please watch it i heard it sounds like an episode of housewives well we went back and forth we went back and forth and i feel like you know chanel is well i know that she's a big personality i you know i am a personality but i usually stay out of the smoke i usually find a way all this all these years i found a way to kind of dodge the landmines and just be good and um
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
We had some things we just needed to discuss. And I'm not going to go into detail because I literally just don't even have the strength. Did you squash her? Hardest? Yeah, we did. I feel like we did.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
It didn't surprise me because I felt like, you know, we had a conversation off camera, obviously. And I apologized. I apologized publicly. I apologized. I apologized. I set her up in a hotel. I was like, we were good.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
No, no. Oh, you're just going to make me talk about this.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Crystal, can you just say it? I just cannot even talk about it anymore because it's out and now it's going to be everywhere. And I'm like, it wasn't even that serious or that deep. It was just a situation where something was said at Bravo Fest. I heard her feelings, but she has been in that exact situation.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
before I actually have a whole new situation that just happened this morning that I'm kind of in a hot seat with again. So I did literally come in hot this morning, but you just explain because I just don't have the energy.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Who's the worst dressed housewife? Who's the ugliest housewife? Who's the whatever? Terrible, terrible.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I'm just exaggerating.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
But, but, but, back story. Okay. In Phaedra's defense, at BravoCon, not BravoFest, okay, BravoCon, Chanel was asked the shady question of who is the worst dressed housewife. And she said, Phaedra. So, of course, Phaedra is going to get her lick back at some point. And the opportunity presented itself.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Because she co-whatever.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
They're like, oh, who would sleep with Cynthia's ex-husbands? And, you know, Portia had the answers. Like, who's, like, whatever.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Even if I did come up with the name, the point is we're all in a position to be asked shady questions and we have to pick somebody.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
With all the years I've been on Housewives, with all the shit I've been called, I would graciously take annoying. Like, that is such low-hanging fruit for me. I'm like, okay, good, we can move on. Like, I literally wouldn't even care.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, you were there. So do you feel like I came in too hot? Or do you feel like she came in too hot?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
This is humble brag. All we do is sit and talk shit about ourselves all day.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
We literally are the safest place for anyone to come on our show.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Now, I did raise up to meet her where she was at. Someone's yelling at me. I'll be right back. Hell yeah. But it was like all love. Look, I think she's great TV. I think she's great. I have a lot of love for Chanel. I really am glad that we are hopefully on the other side of... Shut up, Nick. I'm glad we're on the other side and I'm glad we squashed it. But it was all love.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
But for me, it's like... The thing that I like about Humblebrag is... We really don't really ever have a beef with anyone on here. We actually bring on people that we're usually good with. And I thought, you know what? This will be a fun. And I think to your in your defense, you thought, oh, yes, squash that beef. This is going to be so cute.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
We're just going to just like really lovingly and kindly, you know, kind and just be super sweet and squashing. I haven't filmed in a year. I forget how intense housewives can be. Yes. Can I tell you? You've been a little rusty. I? That thing, it started off like literally like nothing, and it escalated into a complete inferno. And Crystal said, and I was like, yeah, Crystal.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
So maybe she's like a net 90 girl. Does she not pay the bill or does she pay it late? She's a late payer. Because it sounds like these people are getting paid, but maybe not in a timely way.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
If your photo's going to be taken. Stop it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I know, I know. But if you're going to be out and about, honestly, and you think that your photo's going to be taken and you don't know how. Every housewife doesn't know how to do their own glam.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I'm good at my own glam. She's going to a Laker game. She's in glam. I know, but I wouldn't go to a Laker game without makeup on.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
No, it's the same thing. But glam doesn't. No, it is. Glam comes to you to do it for you. Doing your own makeup. You just do it yourself. And I do it myself a lot. But I will say a lot of the housewives that I work with. Like I did myself this morning. Oh, my God.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
And yeah, she's really good. But everyone is not good at doing their makeup. So they have to depend on glam. And if you can afford it and if you want your glam to come and do you every time you walk out the door.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Let your glam do you every time you walk out the door. I'm not mad at it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
It's absurd. Yeah, but you don't have paparazzi on the boat like you guys were like.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Who spends that kind of money? You're not like that. You'll put a little bit on, but makeup is not your thing. And actually, I don't think Dorit does. I don't think she wears a lot of makeup.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Just going back to the glam stuff really quickly. For me, I think that when like because we have like people that get us together all the time. So when we have people in our circle, I feel like it really sucks if they're going to like blast you on social media if you're late paying a bill. Like I've definitely had glam where it's like. I get glammed up and I forget.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I'm like, oh shit, I gotta pay them. They'll like, you know, text me. And then you just pay it. But like, I would hate to like be two days late and be like, oh, you know.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Okay, well that's a whole, yeah, that's a whole nother situation. I just wanted like, sometimes people just want to blast celebrities. Like celebrities are like.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Oh, I talked about you. Wait a minute. I talked about you with your Alex Baskin.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Alex.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Oh, he texted me. Yeah, he's great. We talked about you. I was like, well, Crystal is... Fire it up. I'm having dinner with him this week. Oh, good.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
He's not.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
He has a lot of shows that he's working on right now, too.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Yeah. No, I realize that.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Um, you know, I think you guys can expect for it to be a very unpredictable season. There's a lot of ups and downs. Things just kind of go crazy, but I think it's a new season. I think it's very fresh. I think the energy is very different. I think the new, I think it's the right balance of new blood and old blood. And, uh, I think you guys are definitely in for a treat.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, I am pretty much in a good place with all of the ladies. I did have a little... Drew, I spoke to Drew this morning. She was a little tipped about something I said in one of my confessionals. What'd you say? Oh, Lord, why do I have to keep going back?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I am on Portia's side with that situation because I 100%, 1000% would never work with any of these ladies. Exes. Fathers of their children, exes, booze. Like if I have to have any affiliation with these ladies, for the most part in a serious way, if I've had a child with you or if I've been married to you, there's no way that I would
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
want any of these ladies to be on my show shooting scenes with them for whatever reason like I just think that's kind of crossing the line if they want to work outside of the show which I wouldn't even do that personally is one thing but coming on platform as well it's kind of like okay now you're just like like now it's just weird I fully agree.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
It was a little... A little triggering. Yeah.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Three or four or five. I know. She was like, really? So I woke up to that. And then the whole Humble Break interview is out, so... I usually try to, I choose peace. I don't really want smoke. And Miss Bailey has been getting a lot of smoke this morning.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
So I have to check my phone because Drew's going to definitely like, you know, give me some smoke today on Instagram. And I don't really play on Instagram. I usually just do my stuff. My confessionals get in to get out.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
And so I didn't finish watching all the show yet. But what I said was I was like, Drew has never lied to me. However, and I don't know if they took that part out or whatever, which is a big part to keep in for the rest of the conversation. So I'm going to watch it again. But at this point, I'm like, girl, just light me up. You know what? It's like come for Cynthia Day. Let's go.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Hopefully she's not going to light me up too bad because if she does, then I got to come back and light her up again. And I choose these. I don't want to.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
This is Atlanta housewives for sure. She's not going to let it go.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, I actually appreciate, like, if there's a bomb coming my way, I actually like to be told. I don't want to just be minding my business. That's an interesting point of view. Can I tell you? And all of a sudden, I'm like, wait a minute.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I was like, all right, just bring it on.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I gave her a sparkler. I threw a little sparkler on the fire. Hopefully I'm not going to get a bomb back.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I mean, you can feel that way, but... I mean, I don't... I think my response is just going to be... You know, the go-to look. Sorry. Fun shade. Sorry. You know, I didn't put any extra hot sauce on it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Yeah, oops. My bad. Sorry. My bad.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Of course they cut off the first part.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
She never lied to me. And I said it a hundred times. I'm telling you. Of course you did. I said in that confession, I said... But she's never lied to me. Drew has never lied to me. And I was like, okay.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, it's like, well, but she has been caught with the other ladies and a fib.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I didn't even want to say the word lie. I didn't even say lie.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, according to the other ladies, absolutely.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Well, the problem is I chimed in on it and I guess I should have just like said in my confessional and just not said anything. But I was like, you know, I thought I was helping her in a way. I was like, she's never liked me, but... is apparently being caught in live with some other ladies.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
That's what the show is. It's silly.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Okay, I can't even go there with you right now.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
We're not even. That's so far down the line. We have to come back for that.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Yes, it will.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I mean wait wait wait will it be a part like it's gonna be a dress that's like the whole thing I don't know what they're gonna show I don't know how much you guys will see do you have a side Um, I do have a side on that as well. I would never do that to anyone.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I did not feel like it was a good look for anyone involved, especially Kenya, who, you know, is my friend who I've known forever and had a great relationship with. I just didn't think that it looked good for her to do that, basically. And I just couldn't support it. So I'll leave it right there.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Is there anything else would you, is there any more smoke that I can get on here today? You're horrible. What? You are.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
You're just like, he stirs the pot.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
We gotta bring you on humble break. Like we try to like sugarcoat stuff and be kind of like nice about stuff.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
No, she said it was not good. I don't even want to call it revenge porn. That was said, but I don't think that's what it was. Like, I don't feel like that's what it was. It was something that was just over the top and hugely inappropriate. Oh, gotcha. And something that I don't think should have happened and something that I don't support and something I certainly would not have done.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
But I don't want to say it was revenge porn. I don't need any extra smoke, please. I don't need no Kenya smoke right now.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
No, I got no people on my ass today.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I try to be smoke free, but it does not obviously work out for me that well. I get pulled into the smoke. And for some reason, when like these girls, especially Atlanta, like they come in with Uzis, you know what I'm saying? They will like light you up. And then I throw a tiny little bomb in and it's like all eyes on me. Like, well, what is Cynthia said? I'm like, wait a minute.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Everybody's like dead already. I literally threw a bomb on a dead body already. You guys killed everybody. But for some reason, when I chime in, it just ends up being like, well, wait a minute. Because it's unexpected. Forget what everybody else is saying.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I don't know. I don't know if that's right. But I will just say that the ladies and just in general, I'm just not like, hey, I'm going to just come for everybody. I'm like lighting everybody up. That's not my personality on the show. That is not what I enjoy. I do not thrive in that space at all.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
And I really don't even like to ever say anything negative about my castmates, to be honest. I mean, if they're coming for me, if they're just coming for me, guns blazing, then I have to defend myself always. But I'm not, I don't have fun, like, you know, talking shit about my castmates, to be honest.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Mm-hmm.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I will be checking my Instagram.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
When I get off the phone. When I get it done with this interview, I will be checking Instagram.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
She's going to be nice, hopefully.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
She basically was like, oh, okay. I saw your confessional.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
But when you said... I was hoping she didn't see it, but of course she saw it. What? I know. Maybe she got up to use the bathroom during my part. Like, I don't know. Like, I was hoping, like, Lord, please let her miss it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
She's mindless. She didn't see it. And then I almost thought about calling her and saying, hey, I said, you know, I gave you a little smoke in the confessional. But I was like, you know what? I haven't heard anything. Everything's really quiet. Maybe somehow, like, she didn't even see the episode.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Of course, she saw the episode. She was like, good morning. I was like...
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
And I really felt like they would have just done me that solid and kept my little disclaimer in that she's never.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I know. What show do I think I'm on? I know. It's crazy.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
No, I think people love to see me squirm. It's just such an uncomfortable place for me.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I love that we have to figure this all out and they just don't say what they're trying to say.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Atlanta don't do quotes. They just come in. They don't do Pinterest. They just come in. They create quotes. They just say what they have to say. But going back to the quitting thing, for me, if I walked away from the show or quit the show, I don't know if I had any doubt about, like, if I wanted to go back. I don't think I would post about it. I just think I would just do it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
And if they hear about it, it is what it is. So I don't know. I think there's something about doing and then posting that seems a little performative.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Yeah, I would never want to walk off. But if I was in a situation where I needed a minute, then I would like the option to walk off if I wanted to. But it's just never happened. Yeah. And then it's like, is it even worth it?
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
I feel really bad when I watch those scenes. I don't know why. I just root for them somehow. But I get it if it's done. You know what I mean? I've been divorced twice, so I get it if it's over. But I don't know.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
They're not going to be together. I just don't want to see them together on TV because it's just. Yeah. It gives me hope. Like, OK, look at them.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
You're so messy, Nick. You love the mess. He loves the mess. I'm shocked you're getting heat for it. I really, really am. I'll defend you in the comments. This was like our fourth or fifth guest. We love it. I know. He was excited about it.
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E902 - RHOA w/ Crystal and Cynthia, Dasha, Fantasy Suites, Summer House, Southern Charm & Temptation Island
Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Oh. Yeah. Is it now?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I thought they were from Greece.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
I found it. If you want me to read it, I didn't feel it appropriate to even comment on the situation yesterday, considering that was what was happening in our country, the things that actually matter. However, waking up this morning, I still don't find it appropriate, but wow. The fact that this lawsuit was even news on a day like yesterday says a lot. I'm in shock this morning.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
There is so much going on around us right now. There is so much happening in our country and world, and it's astounding to me that a lawsuit is even on anyone's radar. But here we are. My lawyers have made comments to the outlets reaching out to them, and I find it so convenient that they aren't being shared. This was a shocking and bad decision.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
We have every intention of appealing and are confident in the outcome moving forward. I would say that I was surprised by the disgusting hateful comments online rejoicing in my downfall, but after seeing the decisions happening around us, I'm not surprised at all. Hate, discrimination, the desire to destroy and glorify in people's pain has absolutely taken over this nation.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Damn.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
I mean, well, no, it's like it's like there are other things happening right now and I didn't want to have to talk about it. But here I am. I have to talk about it.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Yeah. She put it out in the world.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
She said, you want to know what else is a deal breaker for me? I want someone who's had a vasectomy. I don't want to have to worry about how hot she is.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Well, it's not going to be Jonathan because he's seeing someone now. I know. We took him out of the running.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Did they confirm that?
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Not confirmed. But he was also like, I don't know if it would be so interesting.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
I feel like if they were going to reveal it, it would be either on the Men Tell All or after the final rose, or it'll be announced outside of the show. No, it'll be later.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
That was Nick's transition. Yeah.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Mauricio Mansky style.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
What would you post, Leah? I would post Smallest Man Alive by Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards. Could y'all imagine?
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Nick wants to twerk on Ryan? Gypsy's going to get in the comments of this video, and she's just going to be like, Nick, I thought we were friends. My man wouldn't touch you with a 10-foot pole.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
I think it's a rite of passage. I cut my own hair. Yeah.
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E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram
Which is today.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I'm so excited. This is two years in the making, I think, from the first DM.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
No, no. And I I can't even keep my head straight around it. So just it's the ram is full now with lots of other other things have been replaced.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Just rip the bandaid off.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I think that I expected the energy to be like that because I knew what was being discussed. I obviously knew Uba and Brynn's situation was going to come before I went on. And that can't be easy. So when I walked into the room and took a read, I knew everyone was having their own energy preservation of just what went on.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
But I expected it to warm up knowing like, you know, it was it was time for my my part. And that never happened. It felt cold. It remained cold for the balance until I left. So I that part I was not expecting.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Yeah, maybe there's a group chat that I'm not part of that something was planned prior to my arrival because I was on what I thought great terms with everyone. I mean, obviously, Brynn and I aren't besties, but I walked into the reunion thinking it would be fine. And I was honestly as surprised as probably you guys were in that moment.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And just normally I'm aware when I do something and I take ownership for it. I could not figure out what I did. But I remember looking at each one like, are you going to give me a lifeline? No. You? No. Uwe and Jessel did. But the rest just it just felt icy.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I think it started, there was a BravoCon weekend where, you know, she was on stage really distancing herself from the prank. And, you know, I don't want to talk about the prank. We've all heard it ad nauseum. But I was very much like, you know, I sent a text. I think they showed it like, you know, we did this together. I'm happy to take responsibility, but you were part of it.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And that was met with then her going back on stage and kind of making fun of the brand. And as a friend who I thought she was, you know, a true friend, we hung out together. Our kids have played together. Our husbands met. I was like, wow, you're going to, you're going to do that to me. Okay. Fine. And then we played phone tag. She chose not to call back after the last call.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And then an episode aired with some sensitive stuff about her father. And I didn't check in on her because I had actually checked in on her and been there for her when her dad actually passed. And I was hurt from the weekend. And so I guess to her, that made me fake and inauthentic and not standing up for women. And so we have yet to rectify anything.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
But I said, if people can be accountable, I don't hold grudges. You know, when Cy apologized to me after calling me too nice and boring, I accepted her apology because I'm a grown woman. So I think as long as people are willing to do that work, like the doors open.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I didn't like that somehow when you're calling someone nice, that's now negative. Like since when is being nice like a negative term? Maybe in housewives land, that's now negative. But I was like, so I'm being made fun of because I'm nice. Cool. Okay. So it didn't upset me, but I was like, let's not further degrade women by saying a nice person is, that's boring behavior to be nice.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I mean, I don't think her intention was negative. Sai just calls it as she thinks it and feels it. And I think that she was just speaking her mind. It was a hot mic moment. And that's what came out.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I have not.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Why?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Wait, are you saying I should do everything I can?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I'm always ready again. If someone wants to be responsible and accountable, like I am happy to engage. If she decides to do that, then I'm happy to have a conversation. She publicly humiliated me more than one time. I did clap back one time. She didn't like that. And so I guess it's not a two-way street. OK.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Yeah. Yeah. It's not like you can publicly humiliate someone and then privately apologize. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think you have to figure out, you know, how do you how do you see if you did anything that could have been really hurtful? And again, I'm happy when people take accountability. I took it. for my mistakes. It's actually easier when people do that.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Yeah, I was there for about an hour. He asked the girls what they thought about my style. We had more conversations about, you know, the thing that shall not be spoken about, the prank. I'm trying to think of what else did we talk about? I think it was an hour mostly of that type of content.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I have zero regrets. Zero.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I have a lot of lessons I learned. We got incredible things. I had incredible opportunities. I made some good friends out of it. And, you know, there are parts that are really, really fun. And part of what was sad about last night when I made my statement, I was like, there's a lot of things I'm going to miss. But it wasn't, you know, for me, something I wanted to chase that feeling of...
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
the anxiety, the mental headspace that you have to be in in those moments. And it got dark, as you saw on the finale. And I didn't want to be in those moments. I feel like I've done a really thorough job of going through my life and trying to eliminate as much negativity as I can. And so for me, it was like, where are the good feelings? And let me chase that.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I love what I do at Female Founder Collective. I love talking about my book and having my podcast. I love designing. I love being with my family. Let's chase those feelings. And so that was where I had to say, it doesn't matter about money or it being amazing for my business. If it causes those things to my heart, it's not worth it.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I was fully warned. So I went open with eyes wide awake. I was happy to share anything that was asked or questions that were brought up if they were done with the right intention in certain topics, which I'm sure you're going to ask me about. I don't think I was prepared for the media situation. to twist my words like what they did over and over again.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
That surprised me that I could take something that was positive or funny. And then it's like, I think I said on an interview, like I literally was with Jenna Lyons saying like, haha, wouldn't it be funny if we were rivals? It was a joke. Even in the interview, I say it's a joke. And then the headline is Rebecca tries to produce fake scene with Jenna Lyons. I was like, are you kidding me?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
You know, like just that was really shocking to me. And it made me want to not open up because you're like, now what are people going to say? So that was hard to navigate. I'm sure from this interview, people are going to twist my words again. And I'm like, OK, here we go. Let's see what they come up with now. So that's a fascinating thing to see how reality can be twisted like that.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
You know, I think in the moment when I was going through a reunion whack-a-mole, as I'll call it, it was something that came to my mind. I was like, wait, there's a lot of things that people aren't talking about. And there are a lot of things that were done and reshot by some other cast members when they weren't happy with the outcome. Why is this just on me?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
But I think I don't know what goes into the minds of who gets the favoritism or the free pass and who doesn't. But I think that Certain people were allowed to not talk about things and that was OK for them to have those boundaries.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And with me, the irony, right, if I would have come in and been like, want to talk about it, want me to share everything, people would have been like, she's proselytizing. She's trying to convert people. So either way, right, if I was going to be reserved and or if you're, you know, asking me respectfully, I'll engage. But any way I played it in that scenario, I likely would have been attacked.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
So sometimes you just go, oh, you know what? I can't please all. And I'm just going to do the best that I can do, if that makes sense.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I land on the topic, first and foremost, I 100% believe what Brynn said happened to her. And I think that any woman who has had to go through that experience, I can't even imagine what's going through your mind and how you talk about it afterwards. Being there in that moment, seeing it all go down in real time, it was very clear that Uba did not know.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And that once again, as we saw throughout the season, Brynn was stirring the pot and it went too far. The pot overflowed. And I think none of us were recording this and maybe we should have. Cameras were down, everyone had gone home. And when she was telling us the story... of how it got, you know, how she told Uba and details were missing and things were changing.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
It just became clear that Uba did not know. I don't think that anyone swears on their deceased mother or their future unborn child or has the visceral reaction. I was in the room with Uba. I was the one sitting in front of her getting her to come back down to earth because she was not here. I was packing her a bag for her so she could leave for the hotel.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Someone doesn't act like that if they knew. So I think two things can be true. What Brynn went through sounds horrific and a nightmare. But to weaponize that, as Sai said, is it's unacceptable. And we watched these little lies and these twisting of truths all season. It was very obvious, you know, happened to me right away almost. So I think that, yeah, it's sad.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I don't think she goes, ooh, let me weaponize this. I think she said, ooh, let me start, you know, this fight and have it be chaos. Because all night, if you look back, you know, for 24 hours, she was throwing out bait to different people. She threw it out to Aaron. She threw it out to Jessel.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
You know, she, in one scene, and if they ever want to play this footage, you know, she's like, why don't you start this? And I was like, I wasn't there. I'm not doing that. And, you know, she takes a shot, rolls her shoulders back and throws out the bait. So to me, I think she was just looking for someone to bite. And unfortunately, it was the wrong topic to have someone bite.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I think she knew what she was saying. I don't think she knew the drastic consequences. I think she thought maybe this will end and erupt like any other situation. But this topic, you can't do that with. But I don't want to assume and put words in her mouth or tell anyone what she was thinking because I have no idea, to be honest.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I think it was just a bad, bad move on the chessboard to have that be the topic. Do you think Bryn is trying to produce the show? I think that at times she tried to produce. Yes. Yeah. And I think that no one wants that. So I think we didn't like it. The producers didn't like it. The fans didn't like it. But at the end of the day, you need conflict. And would we have had conflict without Brynn?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I don't know. So in a way, she can be great for that franchise.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Listen, I would sit there going, OK, none of us are naturally and organically going to fight. And you know what? Sometimes I'm like Brynn took one for the team in a way that she she was aware of of the conflict that needs to happen in order for this to be interesting, good or bad. And I think that, you know, at the end of the day, though, it needs to be real. It shouldn't be produced.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Well, luckily, it was only two people brashing my brand.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I think it was only two. I think it was just Brynn and then Aaron at the end.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Oh yeah, that was Erin. Uba said she liked the bag and so I don't count her as fashion. Okay, okay, okay. I guess it hurt more when Erin did it because Erin's my friend. Right. It hurt less when Brynn did it. It was actually a gift because I was like, oh, I see you now. Okay, this is the game we're playing? Cool. It did not hurt me in the way that I think everyone expected.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
They were like, why didn't you stand up for yourself? I'm like, I don't even need... This is petty to me. Do you know what has happened to me in the 20 years I've built my business? I have been single white female in my own company. I have had things thrown at me. You name it, I've experienced it. So someone trashing a brand just shows that they don't understand business, frankly.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
So that was not upsetting to me. It was just like, thank you for the gift. my gut is right. I see you. For Aaron, I was like, that sucks. That really sucks. And then I went low as well. And I clapped back. And here we are today not talking.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
You know, that was the disappointment I had because going in and I truly believe this when I had my conversations with production, it was like eight elevated women, all self-made, diverse backgrounds, fun, funny, you know, with who I am and what I stand for and what I do all day long. I would never, I think, have agreed to come into this type of environment had I known.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And maybe someone can say that was naive of me, but that's what I was genuinely told. And it was reiterated many times. And so I think it's just this, you know, like, all right, how am I going to navigate this in a way? I have to remain authentic to me. And I did show more.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
There are scenes on the cutting room floor, you know, of fun office stuff with my daughter and photo shoots and dinner, you know, A dinner event, me and Jenna and Jessel and Raquel would too. Jessel and I did this fashion and founders event for 30 incredible designers. That was all there. You know, Uwe put together an amazing panel with Fern Malice and me and Melissa Wood Tepperberg.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And we talked about our careers, all gone. So it was there. Yeah. If people had made the decision that that was important. And I think women are ready to see this stuff on TV. You can have both. You can have these powerful, awesome moments. And then you can have the petty fighting. But for whatever reason, it was all just this. Becky doesn't talk and she's boring.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
You mean in how I was viewed?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Yeah. I didn't, I didn't realize that either.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
There was a lot of focus on it. I very much felt like there's an entire world here. As I mentioned, just three scenarios that was not focused on. Again, I can't speak to why. I'm assuming it's clickbait headlines and attention getting because it is a newer religion. People don't understand it. So they will click that over something else.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Um, I was disappointed in the fact that, you know, with, with almost everyone, I was happy to have the conversation, but I'm only going to have it with you if it's genuine and it's interest. It's not this salacious type seeking opportunity. And so that's where, when I know you're going to do that, like at the picnic,
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
If you've never bothered to get to know me and my experience with you thus far is these little annoying jabs and taking down my brand, you think I'm going to open up to you about my most personal and private beliefs? Like, who the hell would? Yeah. You know, so it was like a little laughable to me that they're like, you should have opened up more. Oh, really? You made it safe for me?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I don't think so. And so that's how I kind of felt about it.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Okay.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Was it the reunion?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
It makes total sense. So I'll say a couple of things. I think that when you have any activity that involves millions of people, there are going to be some dissatisfied customers, right? No one is discounting that. I can only speak from my experience of having done it and applied it to my life for the last 20 years of what it's done for me.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I also think that I am never, ever, ever uncomfortable by anyone asking me anything. You could ask me all the crazy questions about everything you've heard any time of day. It is only when I know I'm on a reality TV show, they're going to cut this. They're going to have someone say something behind my back about it. And going in, you know, there are these preconceived ideas.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And I said it last night at the reunion. This show is not the format to answer everyone's questions in terms of, am I going to get a fair shot? And I think you can see I didn't get a fair shot. So my observations were probably correct. But if you wanted to ask me whatever you wanted, if we wanted to sit down and have a drink and you go, okay, this is everything.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Oh my gosh, I'm happy to clear that up because it's the misconceptions about it that I think people... do want to know and rightfully so, you know, and, and one of the things that Brent didn't like, I was like, read a book, you know, go to the website, it's free. And she thought that was weird, but I'm like, but that's the, that's the source of the information, you know?
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
So I'm, I'm never scared or uncomfortable, but it does come down to intention behind it. Is it to know and be curious and want to clarify, or is it to be snide and dig and try and, you know, you know, make someone wrong, if that makes sense.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
I mean, we'd have to sit here and go through every one of them.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Raquel brought up, like, I have to give a percentage of my salary. I texted her. I was like, by the way, ma'am, I don't give anything to anyone that I don't want to give to. So let's just be clear. She's like, well, good, because that would be a lot of money. And it was just like, no, I don't have to give a part of my salary to anything. It's my money.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
And so I think that there's... Again, everyone has different questions, but I can tell you that the things that were asked of me, at least from the cast, that I answered, whether with Jessalyn or Kel, no, those things are not true. And for me, again... It helped me overcome extreme depression, depression that I thought I could never get out of.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
It helped me be a better mom and communicator and raise children that, you know, while they're not perfect, neither am I, are good, happy kids. Okay.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Well, my book, Fearless, is out in paperback. I guess you could say I was a bit fearless going in and getting out of Roni. And what my goal was in writing this book was to have 22 very easy tools that you can remember when you're facing things that scare the fuck out of you. And do you proceed? And so after 20 years in business, I felt like I had enough insane stories to tell.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
So I'm telling you these rules through my stories of failure and cringeworthy moments and the lessons I learned. And then I have my podcast, which continues to be exceptionally exciting with the guests I have. And I'm just working on my 20th anniversary, which is all year long. We're just going to party.
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E880 - RHONY w/ Rebecca Minkoff, Southern Hospitality w/ Maddi Reese, Paige/Craig Split, RHOBH, and Beyoncé
Thank you guys for having me. Thank you, Rebecca.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Hi, my name is Melissa. I am 38 years old and I am wondering if I am undateable.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
So, like I said, I'm 38 years old. I'm never married, don't have kids, but I still want that. And I'm just struggling to find someone in my dating pool who like is looking for what I'm looking for.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I think that's my problem is I don't know who's in my dating pool. I find that men my age either are looking for something not serious or they have already had the family or maybe had the marriage already and they're not
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
looking to have that right now that's not a priority for them and so i don't really know who wants to date me yeah like i know i have a lot of great qualities that i bring to the table but i don't i think once people know what my intentions are and i'm very clear about what i want in a relationship what my goals are i i find that it kind of leads nowhere
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich glaube, ziemlich früh. Nur weil ich denke, es ist wichtig, transparent zu sein, was ich suche. Ich fühle mich nicht in der Position, Zeit zu sparen. Ich bin ziemlich vorausgängig darüber, dass meine kurzfristigen Ziele sind, besonders ein Kind in der nächsten Zukunft zu haben. But I try not to push that.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I also want to allow a real connection to develop first before I'm even having that conversation. So, I don't know.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And that's just kind of what I'm finding. And I don't know if it's because like who I'm choosing. I don't know if it's like the area that I live in where there's just like, seems to just not be something that a lot of people are looking for. Or if they wanted that, they already found it somewhere else.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I'm not in a rural area. I would say I'm about an hour outside of a big city. But there is a lot that goes on in this area. I go out a lot. I socialize. I
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I'm on the apps, like I put myself out there socially and I don't have problems meeting people, but it's most of the guys that I'm interested in are like, I'm looking for something casual right now, or I'm not really looking to have more kids in the near future.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I don't know. I think I've always kind of dated guys that are a little younger than me. Okay.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I don't know. Maybe because I look young. So I... Ich meine... Yeah, it's like a confidence boost that a younger guy would be interested in me. No, but I also don't think that's necessarily why I'm choosing the guys I choose. I think there's something that I find interesting about them. It's not so much a physical appearance thing for me as it is, you know, is this person emotionally aware?
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Can they have real conversations about deep things? And so... I think the types of guys I date, there's not a lot in common with them. I had this conversation with my friend last weekend. If you put my boyfriend all together and line them up, you wouldn't see much in common with them. So I don't know.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Yeah, no, I totally get it. And I think like what's hard is that I never thought I would be in this place. You know, I've always been in relationships and been there.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
you know someone who thought that like one of those relationships would end in marriage and it just didn't work out you know the way I planned so I don't I hate that like I'm in this position where I have to be like hi nice to meet you do you want to have kids in the next three to five years like I don't want it to be that way but like I have made the choice to prioritize this.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I'm very specific about what I want. And like I keep saying, I don't want like a sperm donor. That's not what I'm looking for. If that were the case, I could have had a kid a long time ago. Like, not a problem. Is that something you're open to?
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I am, but I can't afford it. Like, I couldn't afford it living where I live. I can barely... take care of myself right now.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
It is. So, would I do it at some point? Like, I've considered it. Obviously, when I froze my eggs, I was like, there's a possibility that I had the conversation with my boyfriend at the time, like, would you make embryos with me? And he didn't want to. And so I was like,
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
All right, well, I guess, you know, then I'm really just going to have to like wing this, you know, and hope that some something works out along the way. But I don't know. I just.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Okay. So actually I went on a date recently with a guy who's 50. Okay. And he's like super nice. And, um, Just a gentleman, I think, in a way that is different than the guys that are normally in the dating pool who really just don't make any effort to make you feel special or any of that. So he's been really lovely, but he's also 50 years old and divorced and has like four kids.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And I'm like at the point where I know I have to have the conversation about what I want. And whether that's something he's open to in order to kind of determine whether it's worth me continuing to see him. But I hate to put that pressure on somebody because I also understand that.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich weiß. Ja, vertraue mir, ich habe sie alle durchgeweitet, Nick. Und die Realität ist, ich habe so viel Arbeit auf mich selbst gemacht. Ich habe gelernt, wirklich
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
feel more confident in myself over these last few years than I ever did and I'm so proud of so many things in my life and I'm like the people who know me are like you know you have it all together like why why can't you just find a man you know like I don't understand why you're still single you know and so that sucks because I don't know I'm like is it me am I like
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
picking the wrong people or I'm just not doing the right things to keep these relationships going.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And no offense, you... married a 25-year-old, you know? So, like, that's what I'm up against, you know? Because now I'm competing with 25-year-olds out here. I know that I bring things to the table that 25-year-olds don't in terms of, like, I'm self-sufficient, I'm independent, I have a great job. Like, I don't need anybody to take care of me.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
But I want somebody who, like, just wants to do things for me. I'm so used to, like, my whole life having to take care of myself. Which is why I'm so good at being so independent. But I just want someone who wants to take care of me.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
So he is away right now. He went to Europe and he's been like sending me pictures and like saying, I wish you could see this. And just again, like really nice, sweet stuff. So I am going, I'm sure, to hear from him once he gets back. Und lustig genug, seit ich dich geschrieben habe, habe ich ein paar Männern gekommen. Ich denke, sie kommen in Spuren.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich habe meinen Freund überzeugt, mit mir zu einem Singles-Event zu gehen. Und ich meine, es war schrecklich, dass es 95% Frauen waren. And the men that were there were just not great, which was just a reinforcement of my feeling that there's like nothing in the dating pool for me. But there was one guy who I had recognized, like I've definitely seen him around before.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And we started talking and again, like my gut instinct is like, no, you don't like this guy. But he was like very nice and I got along well with him. And at the end of the night, I was like, you know what? Let's exchange numbers. Let's Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Und das ist nicht immer super wichtig für mich, aber ich weiß nicht, ich bekomme einfach ein bisschen Angst. I hate it.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
So that's why I want to give him a chance, because I'm like, he seems like a nice enough guy, you know, and I just feel like there's like some similarities between us. So I am gonna like go out with him and give him a chance.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I don't rule anybody out because of like their height. I've dated guys that
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich habe eine Menge Empathie für die kurzen Leute, auch. Ich habe
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
have been in therapy for a long time. I'm also a therapist. That's what I do by trade. I'm very aware of relationships and dynamics. I hear other people's stories. I have my own stories. I think I'm pretty in tune with things. I do my best not to be pessimistic. It is something that I'm actively, constantly working towards because my default setting is to be a little pessimistic.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And, you know, and I still felt like we're talking yourself out of it because you're like, I can't be in love with. Yeah, yeah.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich weiß, ich fühle mich egal, ich muss in irgendeinem Fall aufhören. Entweder bin ich aufhören für jemanden, den ich nicht unbedingt fühle, wie dieser Niveau der Verbindung, den ich mit jemandem fühlen wollte, oder ich aufhören.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich weiß. Ich sage immer, dass ich denke, dass andere Leute Dating als eine Rasse sehen und die Schlusslinie ist, dass man verheiratet wird. Aber das ist wirklich, wo es alles anfängt. Das ist nicht, wo es endet. Und das ist eine Missverständnis, die andere Menschen haben, die ich nicht glaube, dass ich das mache.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Aber gleichzeitig denke ich, ja, ich möchte mich fühlen wie... Ich meine, für mich ist es... Ich habe so lange gewartet, als ob es einen großen Preis am Ende für mich geben würde.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
No, and it's good that you're able to, like, see that and recognize it, you know? I can... Ich glaube, wir alle machen das. Ich denke, wenn du jemanden kennst, bekommst du diese initiale Vorstellung von ihnen. Das ist entweder gut oder, ich weiß nicht, oder nicht gut. Und deine zukünftigen Interaktionen mit ihnen basieren auf dem initialen Verurteilung, das du von ihnen machst.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich denke, oft ist das das, was passiert, wo Frauen instantan sind. Interested in a guy like you're focusing on certain details that you know or that you think, you know, and sometimes you can
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And hope that that builds a relationship and build out a physical attraction.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
The ones that I'm interested in are just not the right ones.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And then I talked to my friends who were in their late 20s and I'm like, oh, your boyfriend's so great. How old is he? He's 38. I'm like, oh, well, there you go. The good 38-Jährige, glaube ich, datieren 28-Jährige, weißt du? Vielleicht, vielleicht nicht. Weißt du, was ich meine?
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich weiß nicht, aber es ist frustrierend. Ich glaube, ich muss, wie gesagt, über die initialen, surface Dinge, die ich sage, wie, oh, das sieht aus wie jemand, mit dem ich sein möchte, wenn es wirklich nicht darum geht, wie diese Person aussieht, das wird entscheiden, ob ich mit ihnen sein möchte.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ja, ja, sie sind alle in dieser Phase, weißt du. Also, das ist ein bisschen furchtbar.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich versuche. Ich versuche, nicht bitter zu sein, Nick. Ich versuche wirklich.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Yeah, I know. At least I like to say I skipped my first divorce because I didn't marry.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
I skipped my first too. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad that I didn't marry the guy I thought I was going to marry 10 years ago. But at the same time, it sucks that I'm still alone. And I feel like I'm doing everything right in every other aspect of my life. Das ist das Einzige, wo ich einfach nicht da bin, wo ich will.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Ich denke, das ist der Grund, warum es nicht so schwer ist, jemanden zu verheiratet zu haben, der 10 oder 15 Jahre alt ist.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Aber nein, es ist okay. Weißt du, ich war nicht sicher, was ich erwartete, in Bezug auf Tipps. You know, I think sometimes it's just good to hear a different person's perspective.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
You know, I talked to my therapist about this yesterday, the fact that I was calling in and she was like, I think that's great that you're doing it like there's no harm in just hearing what somebody else thinks about the situation. And maybe there's something you can point out that she doesn't. hasn't been able to or something.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Like you, she's kind of telling me that, you know, I have to try and be open to different things that maybe initially don't feel like I'm not like jumping to like talk to these guys, but doing it anyway, you know, and kind of pushing past that initial like reservation. She's just been really proud of me because I'm definitely like pushing myself out of my comfort zone. It's Big for me, you know.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Und du... Was ich mache, ich gehe zu diesen Single Events und spreche mit anderen Frauen. Und ich sage, hey, bist du in dem gleichen Boot wie ich, wo du versuchst, Leute zu treffen und du weißt nicht, wie du es tun kannst, weil deine Freunde alle in Beziehungen sind? Lass uns Freunde sein. And that's amazing, right?
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
And if nothing else, I felt like calling in was good because I know there are other women out there Ja, andere Menschen wahrscheinlich nicht nur Frauen, die in dem selben Boot wie ich sind. Und so eine Menge.
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E939 Ask Nick - Revenge Dating
Yeah. Hopefully I'll have a good update for you soon.