Crystal Kung Minkoff

It starts when you're a child and then you become a parent.

And then when you do that to other moms, it's just, it's very tough watching it.

So I do feel for everybody, but like it is very gossipy right now.

By the way, if the bigger group takes this and runs, like they'll really profit off it.

You know, if they really play, they have someone else playing Ashley and like, you know, but no, it's, I mean, I mean, we laugh about it, but actually it's kind of, it's really sad.

By the way, it starts in preschool with birthday parties.

At our preschool, there was a requirement that if you had a birthday party for your kid, the class had to be included online.

Or like all girls, if it's like a kind of a girl party or something.

But it had to be very inclusionary.

Because it's so early.

And, you know, that's the kind of age where, you know, you're sitting there and mommy and me and you guys will experience this.

Like your baby's sitting on the ground and everyone's kind of looking at each other like who knows who and stuff.

It just it is what it is.

And then you kind of naturally are drawn to people.

And that's human nature.

That's normal to create friendships.

But, you know, as they get older, maybe one of the kids is a little bit like bites another kid.

I'm like, get that kid out of here.

Of course, I'm telling you, it sounds insane.

But like then that kid is kind of ousted a little bit, not included in the mommy, you know, the music classes anymore.