Dallas Jenkins

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227 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Dec 2024

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So, for example, instead of being just what most Bible projects are, like, I assume you've seen, like, have you seen the Jesus of Nazareth miniseries? Have you seen any of these kind of Jesus movies? No, no. Chosen is the one that I've watched. Oh, well, good. But the genre of biblical filmmaking, particularly Jesus filmmaking, tends to be verse by verse.
It's a reenactment of the verses that you're reading. It's not a story per se that you're telling that follows traditional three-act structure other than the fact that a lot of Jesus stories do. And then Jesus did this, and then Jesus did that, and then he encountered a blind man.
Yes, which makes for sometimes an enjoyable recreation of what you already believe, but certainly not a good movie.
And they almost always are.
100%.
Have you ever been one? Do you think that there's been a time in your life where you would have said, I don't believe there's a God, or have you always been agnostic on the verge of back and forth, you know, wrestling?
Well, ironically enough, I was listening to a sermon from a pastor in Louisville whose name is Kyle Eidelman, and he did a sermon on the crucifixion. And the story of the crucifixion and Jesus' relationship with the two thieves on the cross takes just a few verses. Right.
So in just a few verses, a man goes from mocking Jesus and seeing those mocking Jesus and joining in on the mockery, and within just a few verses, says, I want to be with you. I believe in you.
As a storyteller, it's pretty bad storytelling. There's no journey. We just know he was mocking him a few verses later. He believed in him. You know, there's no... There's no three-act structure. I mean, I guess there's the first and the third act. There's the before and the after, but there's no middle. And so what would lead him? This pastor was saying, what might have he heard from Jesus
that could have caused him to break, right? And so this pastor opined, not claiming fact, but he opined, what if it was, he was broken by Jesus' comment, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do. You know, some of this, he's being mocked. Well, that would be a thing to be broken by if you actually saw it happen. Right.
So you're mocking him, you're mocking him, you're joining in the mockery, and he's just completely, not only is he not phased and broken by it, he's actually praying for the forgiveness of the people who are doing it. And he means it. And he means it. Right, right.
So that's what his opinion was, and I thought that was very compelling, and I thought, I want to make a short film where we unpack the backstory, the before. And that's a word we use all the time on the show.
It's a very quick and easy answer. I'm a storyteller. So, you know, just for example, I watch your gospel series on Daily Wire, and I'm seeing extraordinary intellectuals wrestle with and discuss and debate.
And I'm watching it, and of course it speaks to me because I love the gospels and I've been a believer as long as I can remember, and I've been tasked and stewarded with—again, fast forward for a second— with portraying the gospel story to the world through the medium of television in this way that has seemingly transcended cultures and boundaries.
And so I'm interested in it from that perspective, but I listen to some of you talk and I go, yeah, that's fascinating, but my job and my calling and my interest and my skill set is to tell it as a story. And because I'm a storyteller, I'm attracted to the emotional as much or more than the intellectual.
And so I've known these stories all my life, but ever since I was a kid, when I was a little kid, I would hear Sunday school stories, and I'm going, what would it have been like to sit around with Jesus at a campfire? What was it like to be a sibling of Jesus and to argue with him and then his parents come involved and they always side with Jesus because he's never wrong?
What would it have been like to go to school with the perfect son of God? I was always intrigued by those and the reaction you just had where you chuckled. I'm like, that was me. And I would say that. I'd go, can you imagine what it would have been like to be Jesus' brother? Yeah. And to go, Mom, Jesus did this again. And his mom says, well, you need to make the adjustment.
He's like, you're always on—Jesus can do no wrong. He's the perfect child. Mom's like, well, yes, he is actually. That's very funny. So those kinds of things, I was eight years old and was wrestling with that, right?
Well, my father is an author of over 200 books. He's one of the most prolific authors of all time.
And so I'm a storyteller in the classroom. I was a storyteller when I wasn't supposed to be. I've always been a storyteller. So when a pastor is unpacking three to four verses with an intellectual conclusion, the part that speaks most to me is the story part of it. What might have been the backstory? I'm like, well, I'm on the case.
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