Damian Hughes

One, because it's a recent episode that I just thought was fantastic.

And then secondly, it's because I did quite a lot of research around the world of Barcelona at the time.

So speaking to Yaya Torre about that Champions League final in 2009,

when Pep Guardiola led his team to his first Champions League and what he did that preceded it, that removed the pressure and got them to just focus on being in the moment, was inspired.

Should we have a listen to it?

Absolutely.

Can I ask you about, there was a motivational video that Guardiola played before that 2009 final.

Yeah, yeah, I was incredibly lucky.

I was back and forth from Catalonia while I was doing the research and there was three non-negotiable behaviours of humility, hard work and putting the team above your own self-interest.

And so I was familiar, I'd heard the rumours about that video

But more significantly, it was what Yaya spoke about.

It was a video of everybody.

And it wasn't the highlight moments of great goals or dramatic saves.

It was just everybody helping each other out.

It was videos of everybody that had played a part.

Even if you were the third choice goalkeeper, you were featured in it.

Nobody was above the team ethic and he wanted to reinforce it.

And it was a great example that Yaya spoke about, about how suddenly the mood went from players crying, players being emotional, but ultimately players were determined to go out there and take care of their mate, to look after each other.

That mateship spirit was brilliant.

Yeah, definitely.