Damien Hughes

That's where the treasure is.

Yeah, the pain that you should feel is zero because you anticipated it and we can move on from it so much faster.

So Johanna's example was when she hits that beautiful backhand shot and it hits the net and bounces back down on your side.

That's always going to feel frustrating.

But if you can then go, just laugh about it.

It's just a game.

I can move on from it and I'll be ready for the next shot.

We don't fear feeling inadequate then.

We just prepare ourselves to, let's be better next time.

any of those other billing organizations that help people the first thing is surrender to it don't keep fighting it don't keep resisting it but surrender to it and when you surrender then you can find better ways of responding so cool

I'd like to get paid $2 million for 15 seconds work.

Is that what she got?

Yeah.

Do you remember, you know what I enjoyed about Rhonda, as well as the interview, was do you remember when we met her in Hollywood and we went and she had a mum and a sister there and we all went for a drink on the rooftop balcony afterwards and I felt like she let her guard down and she really showed us that she wasn't just a badass.

That was like her professional persona.

Yeah, it was great.

You saw who she was.

She was a really, really special person.

Absolutely.

Do you think we'll be able to get David back on again then?