Damien Hughes

Okay.

We'll make a note of that.

Well, do you remember when we both came off the call when we spoke with Karl Frampton, the boxer?

Yeah, and I'm glad that he seems to have navigated his way through it.

But he was talking about, I need to win a third world title and then my career will be complete.

Then I can walk away happy.

Then I'll know that I've fulfilled my mission.

And we were like, you've already won two world titles.

You've inspired a generation of young fighters.

You've achieved everything.

You don't need this.

to get there.

We've seen it so often, haven't we?

I remember when I did the interview with Alistair Brownlee, and I've quoted this so often to people when he went, I have stood on the top step of the Olympic podium twice with the gold medal around my neck.

He said, and I can definitively tell you, it's not worth the effort it takes to get there.

So if you don't enjoy the effort, don't think that top step gold medal is going to be the payoff because it's not.

And I think we hear it so often from our guests that it's certainly worthy of exploring and diving a little bit deeper into it.

Mate, it still haunts me that now.

But I remember texting you the day after we'd done Yaya and I said to you, and I complimented you on it, I went...

Yeah, I love that.