Damien Hughes

Absolutely, yeah.

I mean, there's that great quote from the sort of godfather of sociology, Joseph Campbell, who says, the cave you fear to enter holds a treasure you seek.

The cave you fear to enter...

holds the treasure you seek because the point he's making is that the thing that fear is on the success is on the other side of fear and so most of us when we feel fear it means that we're close to something important it might be a difficult conversation we need to have that we need to recalibrate the relationship it might be making a decision to start a new business that means that we're fearful of the insecurity that might follow but

that's the cave that we have to enter that's the fear we have to confront to be able to get to the other side of it the treasure that we seek so you're right every high performer we've met whether it's been as we're going to hear later on clips from Phil Heath the

Mr. Olympia seven times.

We're going to talk to Jamila Jamil about it.

We're going to talk about Scott McTominay, the Italian footballer of the year, about how he had it for 21 years at Manchester United.

There's so many examples that we could draw on of people that have had to go into the cave that they fear to get the treasure that they seek at the other side of it.

Well...

80 of it i think so 80 easily when he talks about the being chased down by lewis hamilton in 2016 when he's going after it when he enters the um the the pit lane for the very first time and michael schumacher that he describes him as a god don't he stood next to him and thinking how could i compete with that it's so rich should we listen to some of it yeah here is a very short clip of nico rossberg which you can hear very soon here on high performance

All the time.

I see it in business.

If we use that as a sort of an arena where I see often showing up, you know, people talking about themselves being busy, people being productive, people constantly on the go, always having to make decisions, always being active.

And it's something that I've reflected on myself at the start of the year.

we were talking about micro habits and I wanted to introduce a micro habit in my life, which was that I found myself often from a place of fear and be able to say, how are you doing?

I'd go, oh, I'm busy.

Yeah.

And what is the fear?

The fear of being irrelevant, the fear of not being useful, the fear of not being able to provide for my family.