Damien Jordan

find a way to make energy bills cheaper just to make sure that they're fair.

I was going to say, yeah, for me, because unlike Damo, I actually do change energy providers and I care about my energy bill.

I mean, I care about it.

You care, you just pay it anyway.

You're like, oh, whatever, it's doubled on, that's fine.

No.

What's a good way to reduce your energy bill for me and our consumers and our audience?

Because honestly, I've always found it quite confusing, the pricing and stuff.

I might be alone now, maybe because I haven't looked at it properly, but it always just felt like quite obtuse, all the pricing and all the different prices.

And I just, I never really felt like I was getting a fair deal.

It's not like, do you know what I mean?

It's almost like the mortgage market.

You're kind of there, like what, all these different fees and things.

And how would someone know what their consumption is?

Would they look at their latest bill and measure over like a quarterly period and input that information?

Would that reduce everyone's bill?

Because you're basically saying that we're paying for the fact that people haven't modernized their payments.

What's PPM?

Pay per month?

Where you're topping up a card at your shop or whatever.