Damien Jordan

I've always associated PPM with punishment.

It's kind of like you've not paid your bills and now you're on the meter kind of thing.

And you top up directly from your smart meter.

You don't need to go to a shop and load up a card and all that kind of stuff.

And you can ask any provider first.

If you don't have one, you can ask any provider.

Do they all provide a smart meter now?

Yes.

Yeah, because I've lived in houses with the prepayment meters in the past, and you would just be sat there and all the lights would go out.

Probably make you much more aware of your consumption.

And for someone like me, I would be more interested.

And then, sorry, we will let you go after this.

But do you think people, like a lot of my friends are looking at solar panels and batteries in their homes and all this stuff because they're worried about

energy and they want energy independence in some form does the regulator think that this is a good move for individual homes that that kind of technology upgrade and pursuit of independence on an individual level is a sensible thing long term so what we are finding is that so the cost of solar panels as well as those sort of in-home batteries that's come down quite a lot over the last few years so

The variable or the cap rate.

You would always get a better deal if you go out and pick a market.

ultra ultra flexible tariffs that move with every half hour and you sort of you agree to be exposed to those prices but you get a cheaper rate overall if this is the thing that confuses me because i'm just like what the hell i've got that on sundays for some reason like they've got half price electricity on sunday so we do all our washing like the house is just full of laundry especially after podcasting just got t-shirts everywhere but then we do all our washing on well not all but as much as we can on sundays because it's half price and just got the washing machine going all day

Is that to encourage people to use energy at non-peak times?

Exactly right.

I put my washing machine on a timer so it goes at night because I was told that the energy was cheaper.