Dan Cleary

No, I think you have it pretty spot on.

And it makes me think I would like to see Grush.

Do you guys have escape rooms over there where people go to escape rooms?

I bet he would get out of any room in about two or three minutes.

You know what I mean?

Oh, I'm that, yeah.

i think you're right i think he is just this unicorn that we've kind of all been waiting for for a long time and not like he's like the ufo messiah but really um i don't think we would be anywhere near where we are now if it wasn't for him and his skills and his attention to detail and retention but i think you're right just knowing

knowing how everything interconnects, having it pretty mapped out and knowing that there is like a puzzle to all of it that he seems to have figured out over the course of a few years.

Do you watch Lord of the Rings?

I've watched the first few movies.

I'm not very well versed.

I think you're right.

I mean, it even goes to Dylan Borland in Congress describing in order to have something be extraterrestrial, you have to go to the home planet, prove that the tech came from there, that kind of thing.

It does seem like just semantics, but Grush is just kind of laying it out right there that that is exactly what we're talking about.

um and i appreciate that he that he won't say et because if he doesn't know he does seem like the kind of guy that if he doesn't know for sure he's not going to say it and he's very very deliberate with his words um and the truth is i think we really don't know exactly where they're coming from so makes sense to me to keep it kind of broad um but you mentioned arrow again we've seen time and time again

where journalists have asked for clarification and calling them out on the ET thing and saying, okay, well, can you say that we are dealing with non-human tech, non-human intelligence, and they refuse to even accept that as a term.

So it is a very deliberate, like a lazy loophole.

I agree.

I think I've even heard of some parts of government that we don't ever talk about in this topic that have their own UFO programs, which is bizarre.

I think there's more parts of government that have interest in this and have intel on this than we realize.