Dan Cleary

So I wouldn't be surprised if these things are all over the place and tucked away in dark little corners.

I don't want to say, but there's one that really shocked me, but I just don't want to mention it.

But a surprising one.

You've heard about it.

You've heard about it.

Yeah, you've heard about it.

Yeah, I think it'll come out at some point, I hope.

But a couple of surprising places where there are kind of UAP programs.

Do you know what?

That's kind of what I feel like it is.

I think it's my understanding that he is briefed pretty well, but doesn't have the full, full briefing.

But even still, I think he's been given a lot of information, but he's still just kind of like...

like some people just aren't interested like i have a a cousin my cousin is a police officer in massachusetts and he's a incredibly smart super interesting fun guy is interested in science and and um he's brilliant and we've talked about this stuff and he's just like yeah maybe i just i don't care

um like you don't even find it even remotely interesting not really it's just if it's science like why wouldn't they be here like okay i could i got other stuff i'm interested in i think trump might be one of those kind of guys um or he might kind of believe it but um he seems like someone he cares very much about how he's perceived obviously and maybe there is a worry that he would

god forbid come across looking crazy if he were to talk about uh ufos or it might be something that he's kind of just guarded about it but it just he's made so many points about the fact that he doesn't he's not really interested other people are i've talked to these pilots and i know you guys referring to the public you guys are into this kind of weird stuff but not me um he does make a very a lot of points about it

like sure that's enough yeah um he's also in his 70s you know and and people of that age are grew up in a time where ufos were nothing but sci-fi and a joke and if you were into it like if you if you're you know in the 40s 50s 60s 70s and you're a kid into ufos like you're you're

probably seen as weird or not super smart.

So that might be something just ingrained in people of that age.

I think we've heard multiple people talk about going to Arrow for interviews about what they know.

and there's not a whole lot of questions like that they'll sit down and um whoever's doing the intake will just be like oh what do you what do you want to talk about what do you want to tell us and they'll just kind of say their thing and often there won't be much follow-up and they'll speak all right thank you no note-taking no like uh recording into a device just like