Dan Farah

And our competitors don't necessarily have that.

There's no free will in China.

She can just be like, hey, you're the smartest guy graduating your class.

You're going to go work for the nation on this.

And here the problem is no one knows it's real.

One of the things I hope the film changes is it makes the scientific community know that this is a valid area of inquiry.

This is real.

It's a real situation.

And there's a ton of problems for the next generation of engineers and scientists to solve.

And so hopefully it inspires them.

and helps us make progress because there's a lot of progress that could be made here.

I mean, this is 34 incredible people putting their reputation and name on the line, which I honestly, Joe, I think it's more, it's stronger evidence than any video or photo.

These days, you could put a 4K video of a giant craft over Vandenberg and half the human population will say it's AI or creating some visual effects program.

But someone of...

of of note putting their name and reputation on the line their career on the line the rest of their lives on the line to say this is what i know to be true to me that's the greatest evidence that that exists but i do think to your point amnesty is something that's gonna have to be figured out because while it's hard for anyone to accept letting people off the hook for wrongdoings right um it is it does seem like it's in the best interest of the bigger picture

One hundred because these people just aren't good.

They have no incentive to come forward with what they've learned.

And so to quote Ruby on the film, he says, look, this is not a endeavor to go and punish anyone, but we need to know what they learned.

Right.

And I think he's totally dead on.