Dan Farah
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And he heard about this and he went to go investigate it.
At first, there's footage of him talking about it where he said, at first, I thought these kids must be out of their mind or it's a big elaborate lie.
They all got together and said they were gonna make up the story.
So he goes and he investigates it.
And he said, after spending time talking to each of these young kids and interviewing them,
he was just completely, he completely came to conclusion that they were all telling the truth because kids just can't lie that good.
Like little kids can't one-on-one tell all the same details as each other, one after another, like it wasn't like five kids or 10 kids, it was like over a hundred kids.
And so,
he came to believe them.
But at the same time, as a hardened, as a serious journalist, he wanted to like bring in some kind of expert to tell him if these kids were all expert liars or crazy.
So he phoned the head of child psychiatry at Harvard at the time, who was like apparently the leading expert on child psychiatry in the United States at the time.
His name was John Mack.
So he calls him, he tells him about this event and asks him to come
out to South Africa and interview the kids and tell them his conclusion.
So Mac flies out to South Africa and he interviews these kids one at a time.
He films the interviews and 100% takes away the fact that these kids are all telling the truth, that they all experienced what they're saying they experienced.
And then years later, James Fox tracked down a bunch of these kids and he got them to do interviews for the phenomenon.
And it's amazing.
You see them talking as kids, intercut with them as adults,
And they're saying the exact same thing.