Dan Fogelman

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160 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Mar 2025

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But it was a montage checking in on everybody in present day being all right, basically. And as you're also like... It was just all to music and montage.
Space. Gives her her space, right? Do you want to know one of the Miguel things that we always talked about in the room? Mandy never takes off that necklace. The moon necklace, you know? Yeah. And what about...
Is that thing just hitting him in the head? And that was always our, whenever you felt really bad for Miguel, you just thought about that.
That was always like when we were like, I'd be like, hey, let's give Miguel a good scene, like make everybody really love him. It's not really natural for the scene. I'm like, but think about the necklace. We got to give it to him.
This is a G-rated podcast.
Okay. Ryan's gonna be like, I told you you were talking too much. I told you, see? See?
He saves the day.
Absolutely.
That was the thing about this episode too, which was like, it was unusual structurally because you're on network TV, you have 42 minutes of time and I begged them and I think they gave us an extra two minutes or so. Okay. But with all that story happening in the past of like the eight minute opening and then like these big long scenes of Mandy seeing the body, there was a lot of past.
So I only had room for like three beats in each of like Justin's story, Randall's story, Sully's story. Like there wasn't a lot, as much real estate as we normally have. It's 46 minutes. Yeah. I remember that was a big thing, like begging for extra minutes of time because we just couldn't, I couldn't do everything I wanted to do in one episode. Yeah.
Well, he also says, she says that every year he sends an unexpected laugh her way and she knows it's from him. And then Justin calls and tells her the story how he finally spoke to his dad at the tree. And then he's like, mom, can I tell you something else? And you say, yeah, what? And he says, I'm not sure I was at the right tree. And she laughs. Yeah.
And that's like, I always loved when we did phone calls on the show because it is how we communicate so often with our immediate family as we get older. We're not always all living in the same place. Kevin and Rebecca are just always on such different wavelengths in adulthood up until this point. I loved that scene. I loved watching Justin do that, I remember, at that tree.
Because it's like so not in Justin as an actor's comfort zone or Kevin as a character's zone to be like talking to the spirit of your dead father at a tree like earnestly. And Justin plays it so well because he's uneasy with it. Kevin's uneasy with it. And it's like he kind of – I watched it this morning, that scene. And he like – he trails off on scripted dialogue.
the line was like i've become a man that you wouldn't have been very i haven't become the man that you would have been very proud of and justin just goes like i haven't become the man that and he just leaves it there because he's like struggling to say it and it's like very effective like the way like and then that phone call is so quiet and so intimate between them i just i love those scenes in it and i loved sully's final scene in the episode with chrissy
where she's saying how lost she was and she never thought that happiness would be something on the table for her. And that like what she's found in it with him and the way Sully sits and listens to her in that scene. And that it's just, it undercuts it just enough, but there's like such a sweetness to it. And so it's so simple. I really love those scenes.
She says, this big guy, I was watching it this morning, and this big guy came into my life at a support group. And Sully's going like, me. And it just does enough to make it so this isn't getting too earnest. It's like, it's really- It's my job. But then Chrissy at the end goes, she just goes, I'm always crying. And it's like such a sweet way of undercutting the scene.
I was watching it this morning, and I don't think that was scripted. That's awesome. And then, so-
I'm taking it off. I take it structurally off and it's fucking up Sterling. No, no, no, no, no. It's perfect.
You feel how comfortable I was in watching and skimming the middle and then watching the ends, you feel how comfortable all you guys are. And it's like, it's so natural that it's almost turned into something else. Like, it's like the way Justin's not completing sentences or the way you and Chrissy are looking, the way Sterling and Susan are being funny with one another.
you know, Randall's going to crack at some point. It all is just very like it's so natural that it's like it was like I think that was when we were really hitting our stride in that level.
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