Dan Harris

Just to set this up a little bit, I, notwithstanding the fact that I'm

allegedly some sort of happiness expert, you know, continue to be... Only 10% happier.

Yeah, exactly.

Thank God I called the book 10% Happier.

I have lots of challenges, you know, and one of them is that I have really intense claustrophobia.

Oh, yeah.

I know this one.

It's gotten worse over the years.

Really?

And...

So I struggle on elevators and airplanes.

It's a real challenge for me.

And there's a...

A studio in New York City where I often record podcasts when I'm not recording from my home studio.

And one day I showed up at the studio and I was in the middle of this, I was in a particularly bad place with my claustrophobia.

And it was the first time I'd been there.

And I saw, I looked at the elevators and they looked really small and scary to me.

And I kind of was panicking and I had a suitcase and all this stuff with me

And the security guard looked at me and I said, hey, can I just, can I walk up?

And he's like, it's 16 flights, dude.